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4870 or 260 core 216 my thoughts

Yea i had enough also there are more people with my opinion over yours thats what the sales figures tell us and look at the tables again and compare machines they are all different not really a good comparison as you could say 1 x2 will beat 1x280 when in the same machine in vantage and its close crysis wise also.
 
elpedro said:
Had enough now, everything you say has to be taken with a massive dose of salt its that poor and in concise. There are plenty of NV owners, top 4 single card scores on the 3D mark vantage table are all 200 cards, the majority of top Crysis scores are 200 cards, you can't ignore the amount of issues many people have had with 4800 series.

I'd say the 4870 is the optimistic option, GTX 260 is the safe bet. Performance is close, otherwise there wouldn't be threads like these. End of they day, take into account your individual hardware and games then chose which one. I'm off to play some TF2 now...
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I wouldnt pay much attention to TheRealDeal, he turns up in these threads trying to convince users there wrong and hes right and he always has to have the last word, it gets old fast. Either learn to ignore him and users like him or put him on your ignore list.
 
Heh, oh well, unlike him I've owned both cards, I take comfort from personal knowledge knowing at least MY GTX 260 is better than the 4870, unless Crysis, Far Cry 2, Vantage, CoD4, TF2, 3D2k6 and Warhead are lieing.
 
Shocky-FM said:
I wouldnt pay much attention to TheRealDeal, he turns up in these threads trying to convince users there wrong and hes right and he always has to have the last word, it gets old fast. Either learn to ignore him and users like him or put him on your ignore list.
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All i can say is dito not even gonna honour that with a reply.As for the above comment guys with review experience do not agree and i will say again people use money on results not fan boyism like shocky. I will say again ocuk don said sales for ati are 5-1 in ati's favour says all to me about the better product i can't argue with why ati are beating nv so easy atm but shocky is a guru and knows better than 5-1. I talk facts not fiction and what i see all around the net which comes from millions of people.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
All i can say is dito not even gonna honour that with a reply.As for the above comment guys with review experience do not agree and i will say again people use money on results not fan boyism like shocky. I will say again ocuk don said sales for ati are 5-1 in ati's favour says all to me about the better product i can't argue with why ati are beating nv so easy atm but shocky is a guru and knows better than 5-1. I talk facts not fiction and what i see all around the net which comes from millions of people.
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Yeah 5:1 sales and 24:1 return rate... says more to me about the quality of the product.
 
Please, theres just as much faulty Nvidia cards being developed as ATI Ones, stop comparing the ammount of "problems" posted on the forums and look at the real picture, its %'age total sales compared to %'age returns (And tested faulty, to rule out human error which accounts for a large ammount of the returns i bet) and the result is well within the regulations set for sale of an electrical product for both compaines, or their product wouldnt be allowed to be sold - period.
 
Thats simply not true - other than the initial batch with fautly cooling the returns for 200 series cards is far lower than 4800 series. I can't mention where I work as its a competitor but these numbers aren't just pulled out of thin air.
 
The hardware store I work in has less then 0.5% Failure rates on both Nvidia 200 and ATI 4000 series cards, yet due to ATI Out selling 3:1 (at this store anyway, as above it seems ocuk is an even higher ratio) then the total number of returns will be higher because of this reason alone!


Look - im glad you like your maxcore 260, but most the comments in this post are pure fan-boyism. My 4850 xfire setup offeres a lot more performance then a single 260 can muster, but you dont see myself or other ATI Purchasers (this generation, ive used Nvidia previous gen and with next gen again - ill use whatever is best within my budget) posting every other post attempting to justify their purchase like the Nvidia corner of these forums seem to do lately!

Honestly - the GPU forum has turned into a manifest worse then a typical 360 vs PS3 thread over the last month or so.
 
I've owned a 4870 512, 1gb and x2, and I've never had a problem with any of them regarding drivers or anything else for that matter. It seems to me that it's only the ones who've had probs with their 4870's rating the gtx260 as the much better card. Go figure.

I currently own a gtx280 but only because I got it at a bargain price from here for £215 using a discount code, if I had to pay any more than that though I'd of sooner kept the 4870 512mb. I guess my point is that I can't see the gtx260 being that great of a step up when I didn't notice amazing gains myself switching from a 4870 to a gtx280.

Edit: If you'd like proof that I've owned the cards mentioned then there's plenty of benchmarks floating about this forum where I've entered all four.

Edit 2: OP, glad you're happy with your new card though, I guess that's all that matters. :)
 
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Rroff said:
LOL @ the rabid 4870 fans
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Erm, I've read the whole thread and can't say I've noticed any "rabid 4870 fans". :confused:

AWPC sums it up pretty well below:

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Do a like for like test and you will find that a 4870 1GB is the match for a GTX260 Maxcore once AA is applied. Synthetic benchmarks are one thing real world performance with max game detail is something else. Also the 260 maxcore is around the price of 2 x 4850 which would beat it by around 10-15% in supported games so NV are not exactly winning the price/performance wars here as no doubt ATI could make a £340-260 product which would better the GTX260 Maxcore as their technology is just better at the moment than NV designs.

All the benchmarks I have seen place the 4870 1GB around 5% faster than 260 Maxcore and the 4870 512Mb is only 2% behind this but a lot cheaper.
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As I said, I also own a gtx280 so you can refrain from directing any pathetic fanboy comments in my direction. Thank you please. :D
 
Bizarre said:
I've owned a 4870 512, 1gb and x2, and I've never had a problem with any of them regarding drivers or anything else for that matter. It seems to me that it's only the ones who've had probs with their 4870's rating the gtx260 as the much better card. Go figure.

I currently own a gtx280 but only because I got it at a bargain price from here for £215 using a discount code, if I had to pay any more than that though I'd of sooner kept the 4870 512mb. I guess my point is that I can't see the gtx260 being that great of a step up when I didn't notice amazing gains myself switching from a 4870 to a gtx280.

Edit: If you'd like proof that I've owned the cards mentioned then there's plenty of benchmarks floating about this forum where I've entered all four.

Edit 2: OP, glad you're happy with your new card though, I guess that's all that matters. :)
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A balanced view based on reason and experience, at last. 100% agree...

Edit: FWIW I've owned a 4870 512 and now a 4870 1Gb, and the 1 Gig card is better in every way.
 
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Credo said:
Edit: FWIW I've owned a 4870 512 and now a 4870 1Gb, and the 1 Gig card is better in every way.
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but I thought 1GB was un-necessary and due to ATI's wonderous texture compression not needed? or was it all just fanboy fud I kept hearing in the first few months before ATI released a 1GB card....? ;)
 
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but I thought 1GB was un-necessary and due to ATI's wonderous texture compression not needed? or was it all just fanboy fud I kept hearing in the first few months before ATI released a 1GB card....? ;)
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Absolutely amazed more people haven't mentioned this. That was every other thing you read when the 4870 512mb was being compared to the GTX280! :D
 
lol I've only been keeping the 260GTX end up otherwise it gets buried under all the rabid 4870 fanboism.

If you have a problem with me on a personal level - keep it to yourself as I don't care.
 
LeJosh said:
Are you employed by Nvidia Rroff? :eek: *runs*
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If I was the prices would be about 25% cheaper, the RAM nice even numbers like 1024Mb, and all cards would have about 30% more ROPs and 100 more SPs and the company would probably be broke.

Oh and intel boards would support SLI then everything would be right in the world.
 
Rroff said:
lol I've only been keeping the 260GTX end up otherwise it gets buried under all the rabid 4870 fanboism.

If you have a problem with me on a personal level - keep it to yourself as I don't care.
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Did I say I had a problem with you? No I did not.

The GTX260 does not get buried under 4870 fanboism, even if it did, makes a change the amount of Nvidia fanboism there is around here usually.
 
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