9950 Overclocks

EvilOne · 14 Nov 2008 at 09:32

Acording to toms, you can only hit 3.1Ghz by overclocking with 9950 and SB750. Guess everyone out there with higher clocks better RMA them as they are clearly faulty and not ment to run that fast.

jonnylaris · 14 Nov 2008 at 09:53

Phenom's are crap overclockers. Prob best just to leave them at stock tbh, for all the diff you are going to get from 200/300mhz..

EvilOne · 14 Nov 2008 at 10:00

You would get on great with tom

Emlyn_Dewar · 14 Nov 2008 at 10:06

jonnylaris said:
Phenom's are crap overclockers. Prob best just to leave them at stock tbh, for all the diff you are going to get from 200/300mhz..

lol, clearly this guy hasn't used a recent Phenom and doesn't pay attention. Kudos to you for your blind accusations.

Tomshardware have always been pretty poor on the overclocking front. Were they using the AMD software through Windows to OC?
3.1ghz was a common enough OC even on SB600 boards.

Also... 300mhz over stock would still be a welcome boost (the 9850's/9950's will easy go further)
The difference between a mid range and a high end chip can be 300mhz and people will pay much more. If you're getting it for free, why not?

Edit: Dear God, just read the conclusion. Good old Tom's, becoming less credible every month.

jonnylaris · 14 Nov 2008 at 10:22

Emlyn_Dewar said:
lol, clearly this guy hasn't used a recent Phenom and doesn't pay attention. Kudos to you for your blind accusations.
Tomshardware have always been pretty poor on the overclocking front. Were they using the AMD software through Windows to OC?
3.1ghz was a common enough OC even on SB600 boards.

Also... 300mhz over stock would still be a welcome boost (the 9850's/9950's will easy go further)
The difference between a mid range and a high end chip can be 300mhz and people will pay much more. If you're getting it for free, why not?

Edit: Dear God, just read the conclusion. Good old Tom's, becoming less credible every month.

All I am saying is they aren't great overclockers, no need to start a fight over it.

Emlyn_Dewar · 14 Nov 2008 at 11:08

Not starting a fight... Just pointing out inaccurate information.
Later Phenoms on good motherboards aren't clocking too bad at all, it seems impossible for a large percentage of this forum to see this though...

mrthingyx · 14 Nov 2008 at 11:12

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Not starting a fight... Just pointing out inaccurate information.
Later Phenoms on good motherboards aren't clocking too bad at all, it seems impossible for a large percentage of this forum to see this though...

Indeed. Nobody seems to bother actually searching for practical experience of the Phenom chips.

As I've posted before in another thread: if Anandtech can get a 9950 to 3.54GHz on a micro-ATX board, that is indicative of the chip's potential. Sure, not all will go for that speed, but not all Q6600s will "easily" (ref: pretty much every uninformed post on these boards) do 3.2GHz, just as not all E7200s will breach 3.2GHz.

And by the way: 9850/9950s on SB600 motherboards would go for 3.2GHz on a semi-regular basis on xtremesystems.org... but then I suppose those overclockers actually know what they're doing.

jonnylaris · 14 Nov 2008 at 11:46

mrthingyx said:
Indeed. Nobody seems to bother actually searching for practical experience of the Phenom chips.

As I've posted before in another thread: if Anandtech can get a 9950 to 3.54GHz on a micro-ATX board, that is indicative of the chip's potential. Sure, not all will go for that speed, but not all Q6600s will "easily" (ref: pretty much every uninformed post on these boards) do 3.2GHz, just as not all E7200s will breach 3.2GHz.

And by the way: 9850/9950s on SB600 motherboards would go for 3.2GHz on a semi-regular basis on xtremesystems.org... but then I suppose those overclockers actually know what they're doing.

I can guarantee you that 99% of Q6600's can do at least 3.4ghz on any board. Remember its not just the chip its the guy doing the tweaking

EvilOne · 14 Nov 2008 at 11:52

jonnylaris said:
I can guarantee you that 99% of Q6600's can do at least 3.4ghz on any board. Remember its not just the chip its the guy doing the tweaking

Seems like tom's needs a guy who knows how to OC with AMD lol.

Emlyn_Dewar · 14 Nov 2008 at 12:03

jonnylaris said:
Remember its not just the chip its the guy doing the tweaking

Nail. Head.
That's where the majority of sites are still going wrong on the Phenom front.

mrthingyx · 14 Nov 2008 at 12:59

jonnylaris said:
I can guarantee you that 99% of Q6600's can do at least 3.4ghz on any board. Remember its not just the chip its the guy doing the tweaking

Really? That does sound like an interesting offer I may - someday - take you up on. I wouldn't personally guarantee a processor can do anything, really, but that's just me.

To reiterate Emlyn's point: a lot of benchmark sites didn't know what they were doin with Phenom, and a lot still don't, meaning that the public benchmarks for these things are dire. Understand how the chip works, and things suddenly change quite dramatically.

jonnylaris · 14 Nov 2008 at 13:06

mrthingyx said:
Really? That does sound like an interesting offer I may - someday - take you up on. I wouldn't personally guarantee a processor can do anything, really, but that's just me.

To reiterate Emlyn's point: a lot of benchmark sites didn't know what they were doin with Phenom, and a lot still don't, meaning that the public benchmarks for these things are dire. Understand how the chip works, and things suddenly change quite dramatically.

Get a q6600 and a decent board such as a P45 and i'l bet I can get it stable at 4ghz for you.