***Official Wrath of the Lich King Thread***(Contains spoilers)***

Here is my spec, I put 2 in Unholy Aura for the boost in speed when leveling, every little helps.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Marzipan

I just woke up, and have college tomorrow...means all nighter for me so I'll get 73 then go to college, stupid sleeping times. :D

God.

WoTLK raiding is so damn easy.

Think i'll just hit 80, and pvp or just quit, there is no point doing dumbed down raiding.

TBC didn't take that much longer, while it is worrying I don't think they have intended to make it this easy.

Best of waiting for the content patch to see how hard Uldaur is.
 
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Too many people making death knights. To many fails for words. On my server people are using variations of arthas as a name. Could you fail more at a video game if you tried?

The numbers are slowly dropping, the class is easily the most complex to really make the most out of, and while I can see a lot of people liking it, most will be bad enough that rightfully raid leaders will not let them in.

Runic Power, Runes, cool downs, Rune Strike (so needing to look out for being blocked, parried and so on) minion control, keeping yourself buffed with whatever you need to, and tons more stuff. The questions I am being asked just makes me want to say to the person they will suck at the class tbh :/

People always want to go with the "new thing" no matter how bad they will be at it, it really is annoying :/
 
actually looking forward to work tomorrow have played wow literally non stop since Friday evening :o will be good to put my mind to work on something different
 
Death Knight is no more complex than any other class, it's going to take people time to get to grips with it, especially when you're dumped out at 58, considering every other class you learn from level 1.

And even then, WoW is hardly the most complex game ever.
 
Death Knight is no more complex than any other class, it's going to take people time to get to grips with it, especially when you're dumped out at 58, considering every other class you learn from level 1.

And even then, WoW is hardly the most complex game ever.

55, I would say it is more complex considering the Rune system and cooldowns.
 
Its not really a deal to me that the current content is too easy .. something to ease people into things..

too easy is much better then too hard (Hello pre-nerf gruul!), and its easier to fix, just make the next instance slightly harder :)
 
Too many people making death knights. To many fails for words. On my server people are using variations of arthas as a name. Could you fail more at a video game if you tried?

The numbers are slowly dropping, the class is easily the most complex to really make the most out of, and while I can see a lot of people liking it, most will be bad enough that rightfully raid leaders will not let them in.

Runic Power, Runes, cool downs, Rune Strike (so needing to look out for being blocked, parried and so on) minion control, keeping yourself buffed with whatever you need to, and tons more stuff. The questions I am being asked just makes me want to say to the person they will suck at the class tbh :/

People always want to go with the "new thing" no matter how bad they will be at it, it really is annoying :/

That's such elitist rubbish. The people who "suck" paid for the game just like you did, who the hell are you to say that they shouldn't experience new content just because you don't think they know what to do?

I agree with Revolution, with every other class you are fed new spells slowly, so get a lot of time to try things out. With a death knight, everything is already there, which means people will obviously take a while trying different spell and rotations.

I don't know the best way for me to play a death knight, but I really don't care. I wanted to see the new content, not to sit working out which spells to use when. I think it's great that everyone wants to see the new starting area, because it's a pretty cool experience.
 
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Rune Strike owns, did a 5k on a caster mob earlier.
 
naxx 25 man cleared world 6th, malygos tomorrow!

time for bed!

also yea woltk endgame raiding is easy atm cause most of the hardcore raiders did naxx pre 60 and the encounters are pretty much the same if not easier,

wait to uldear is out then we will see how many people and how quick the content gets cleared! remember this content has been cleared so far by no more then 150 people, i wouldnt say that was easy considering 10+ million people play the game!
 
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naxx 25 man cleared world 6th, malygos tomorrow!

time for bed!

also yea woltk endgame raiding is easy atm cause most of the hardcore raiders did naxx pre 60 and the encounters are pretty much the same if not easier,

wait to uldear is out then we will see how many people and how quick the content gets cleared! remember this content has been cleared so far by no more then 150 people, i wouldnt say that was easy considering 10+ million people play the game!

Its more people are taking time to level.

I really am taking my time. Just clearing the secound starting area. I'm trying to get all the questing and dungeon acheivements now, as i know i'll have to come back and get them later if i don't. Also just taking my time, having a laugh with the guild.

Must say though i went to a lvl 75 instance as lvl72. and it was sooo easy. Having T6/SWP/BT gear did help... I'm just turning 74 and still havn't found anydrop to replace any of my gear. Had our top rogue replace the kalegos dagger yesterday with a blue drop in a instance - but he was lvl 77 so thats not to bad going.
 
Leveling going slow for my DK At the moment .. only 67! =(

Queues in the evening are upto 2 hours long, and work during the day except monday, leaves little leveling time.
Then add in all the bored horde players without WOTLK on Grim Batol server ganking DK's all day .. ive died 237 times, and only 3 times was to mobs, and once to someone under lvl70 ...
 
My servers full of DK's, all major cities both Alliance/Horde are empty, fun trying to level in Outlands with everyone stealing your kills, but it gives me time to finish up my DK guide. Got my Blacksmithing/Inscriptions up max also, cooking almost maxed and FA is maxed, just fishing now for something to do while the Outlands calms down.
 
So, had WOTLK since weds for me and the Mrs. She was lvl 67 so too low for starting in Notherend. I've just hit 70 and have been grinding battlegrouns for honor so I can get some decent kit. About half *** to one item :( (wish I did them earlier!!!)

So yeah, we've not got past the starting area in Notherend and we've levelled two DK's to 62 instead. So far we've never raided and I've only done 3/4 instances with my lvl 70 char.

I find the game a bit difficult socially, maybe it's the Thunderhorn server. I really really want to get into raiding and the social aspect. I spose we need a decent guild. Help!
 
That's such elitist rubbish. The people who "suck" paid for the game just like you did, who the hell are you to say that they shouldn't experience new content just because you don't think they know what to do?

I agree with Revolution, with every other class you are fed new spells slowly, so get a lot of time to try things out. With a death knight, everything is already there, which means people will obviously take a while trying different spell and rotations.

I don't know the best way for me to play a death knight, but I really don't care. I wanted to see the new content, not to sit working out which spells to use when. I think it's great that everyone wants to see the new starting area, because it's a pretty cool experience.

Excuse me, if you want to disagree with something don't insult it first by calling it "elitist rubbish"

My statement was obviously coming from someone who is raiding. I have 3 people in my guild who are completely terrible with the class, don't understand a thing about it and then expect us to raid with them as their new class.

I am a senior officer, and need to bring people in to Naxx, and other raids that can use their class. I had a guy who is a great player (really good) who uses a paladin, and was leveling a DK with me, said he prefers his paladin because of bubble anda few other things and switched. Try it, fine. If you suck though, they almost expect the class to be over powered, and hitting 1111111111 will be fine.

The class is obviously more complex than other classes, and if someone wants to try it out for fun go ahead. But I don't like how people jump to it because they consider it over powered, and then afterwards expect to auto have a raid spot, because they think ditching their old class (a healer or whatever) is ok to play something they can't use, don't level their old main past a level a 2 after all this time, yet find the time to have their DK at 62.

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Further more, compared to a mage who *can* get away with spamming a few buttons, or a hunter who can get away with a 1 button macro, the DK is a lot harder.

Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Spread Diseases, possibly use D&D, *insert strike of your spec a few times* keep diseases up, rune strike if parried/miss and so on. Minion control, watching runes and runic power. Even switching presence to help grab stuff from clothies, and tons of other stuff besides. It is a harder than a warlock hitting 1 button like in the old days of the 0/21/40 build.

Even positioning, because you need to get close to the boss, even a basic boss in Karazhan like prince was very hard for melee to begin with, even skilled players fell over on occasion. (we had just started Karazhan like raiding at the time, so...) Some people just are not able to use a certain class well, they can like it, try it and enjoy it. But expecting to be invited in to raiding guilds when they can't play melee / don't know their class is annoying.
 
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Got my DK to 66 lastnight, they are so incredibly overpowered its just not funny really, you can almost guarantee that give it a few months and blizzard will nurf the crap out of them.

Being able to solo same level elites without even coming close to getting killed. Not run into a single elite quest that i havent been able to solo yet.
 
Got my DK to 66 lastnight, they are so incredibly overpowered its just not funny really, you can almost guarantee that give it a few months and blizzard will nurf the crap out of them.

Being able to solo same level elites without even coming close to getting killed. Not run into a single elite quest that i havent been able to solo yet.

They used to be over powered.

Not really any more, people think they are because not used to their stuff yet.

Compared to paladins, with 2 bubbles, lay on hands, healing themselves, stuns, and whatever.

Compare to rogues who can vanish twice, stun lock.

Shamans can self ankh, totens to reduce damage, mages can sheep, blink and whatever. People think stuff is overpowered because they aren't used to how the class works.

The only thing which is a little "off" right now is the class has a few balancing issues, certain things aren't strong enough, while other moves do a bit to much burst. Still, DPS wise Affliction Warlocks are top at the moment in theory crafting, so I doubt blizzard will touch any class for a while, to see really how the progression guilds go.
 
Got my DK to 66 lastnight, they are so incredibly overpowered its just not funny really, you can almost guarantee that give it a few months and blizzard will nurf the crap out of them.

Being able to solo same level elites without even coming close to getting killed. Not run into a single elite quest that i havent been able to solo yet.

TBC elites != WotLK elites
 
Another thing is that all the abilities of the old classes are far stronger. You couldn't single tank Zul'aman in 2.4, 3.0 you can.

Shadow Priests did around 1K of DPS, it is now 2K (I am talking of 3.0, level 70 with epic gear).

Ret paladins couldn't compete in DPS meters or in PVP, all of this changed, and a lot of elites/dungeons/raids in TBC got nerfed too. Everything is balanced for level 80 play, and things are nerfed to paste at the moment.

I was even soloing elites with my void walker with my warlock, and even used a felguard to tank elites in Stratholme (with no healer other than me healing him draining my life), In WOTLK this changes.
 
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