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I7-965 My Early Thoughts

i guess it is pretty alright price comparing with market today. they will go down eventually and new dual cores will be out etc etc. then ill buy it but nice rig man
 
I spy competitor name in pic :p

Very nice build and good choice on mobo, didn't realise it was that much cheaper than the ASUS alternative. The whole thing just shouts quality, apart from the case though, have to agree with the others.

Also for the first time the Intel stock fan actually looks sexy.
 
Very nice setup there mate.

I am currently in the process of speccing up my own Core i7 pc (albeit the 920) with the view to purchase very shortly.

I aim to spend roughly £1200 which seems to get me a pretty sweet setup.

creed said:
so you wont buy a house until u have saved up all the cash? Also using a credit card responsibly is good to build up a credit rating which you will one day need if you want to get a mortgage.

TBH given that most major retailers (pc components) now offer buy it now pay later (9 months) I don't see a reason to purchase any computer parts on a credit card. Doing it this way my money will sit in my account earning interest whilstI get to enjoy the pc. After 6 months or so (as to not forget about it) I will pay off the balance (given that I already had the funds this is easy).
 
I've never had a credit card and I never will.

I dont think this is a good idea, unless you have serious issues in managing your finances. There is nothing wrong with credit cards, unless you begin to spend money on it that you cant afford to pay back. If however, you responsible, credit cards are a great way to "earn" extra money and insure the goods that you buy. You also build up a good credit history (providing of course you make payments on time.

I prefer to save up and then when you're buying it its yours and you don't have to worry about paying the debt off.

Generally, I subscribe to this theory as well. I will make sure I have enough money to make a purchase and then I will buy it using a credit card. Right now for example, I have a '0% on purchases' credit card, so I will not pay off the credit card until it expires. In the mean time, the money that would otherwise have gone to the credit card goes in a savings account, thus earning me money.

If you use credit cards and other financial devices to your advantage, you can increase your earnings. If you remain oblivious to them, then its your loss.

Also using a credit card responsibly is good to build up a credit rating which you will one day need if you want to get a mortgage.

Too right.

Back on topic. That is an expensive system you have there. I've read that the Core I7 cpu isnt too great for computer games. Is this correct?
 
so you wont buy a house until u have saved up all the cash? Also using a credit card responsibly is good to build up a credit rating which you will one day need if you want to get a mortgage.

Had a mortgage for the last 4 years.
 
AWPC nice set up tell me can you notice much of an improvement .. is it faster than your core2 system:)
Not had much time today to have a play but yeah its a fair bit quicker. Thing I noticed the most so far is how much smoother Vista is.

Will have to benchmark games in a few days. Some like Left 4 Dead, Lost Planet, Crysis, Assassins Creed & Devil May Cry4 may see decent boosts from 8 cores (Intel claim Lost Planet is 40% faster with a Nehalem 8 core vs Quad Core!!). Only major downside to this is that you really need a high end SSD as I have installed Vista on both a 16 MB cache Samsung 320GB platter & 250GB platter HD (750GB model with 32MB Cache) and on both it takes the same 1 hour or so to install a fresh copy of Vista + SP1. The bottleneck now most certainly appears to be traditional HDs. Decent Mtron SSD's are very expensive and just not prepared to pay the price premium for them so guess will have to wait a few years before I see the full benefit of 8 cores:eek:
 
Back on topic. That is an expensive system you have there. I've read that the Core I7 cpu isnt too great for computer games. Is this correct?
Depends on the game not had the time to do any benchies yet but some do see hefty FPS boosts. Left 4 Dead should be a good one to test (mine should come by the weekend) then Lost Planet is supposed to have 40% for FPS vs Quad Core. But I think with games which are not written to take advantage of multi core than the Core2Duo will still be slightly faster overall than either Quad Core or I7.
 
I helped out in our workshop earlier today as we didn't have a lot going on in Technical Support and got to build our very first build using these new chips along with Intel's Smackover board and some Tri-Channel DDR3 RAM

Made me very tempted to upgrade once the thing was built.....
 
thats the ONLY debt i will ever pay mate. everything else i will save up myself mate. i have a credit card and i never use it only for emergencies. i dont want to get my paycheck and tell myself, o damm i gotta pay back £££ i spent on my i7 rig a few months ago. no sir i rather save up now and when im ready, i will buy it in full.

the less debts you are in, the better

Too right mate. I fully agree. I spend money I have, not money I don't have and to be honest I don't see what everyone’s problem is with that. Each to their own. I never had problems getting a mortgage at the age of 21 so it's not as imperative to have a credit card like most of you are implying.

RoEy
 
I use my CC sensibly and pay off whenever I can as long as its checked properly and managed can defiantly help you out, but I too tend to save b4 a large purchase.

When I noticed my main rigg I built back in fall 2007 was rapidly falling in price I sold it off for 1.5k from 2k spending... and ive used temp riggs for the better part of the year but at least Ive got a serious pot now ;)

And am still gonna add too it and then turn into a 12 year old kid soon but AMDs deneb for some reason feels like its worth the wait since its due early Jan and by then at least we might have some Core i7 heatsinks ! and better Core i7 Ranges and prices.
 
I had my first mortgage at 22, the second at 26 and the third at 30. Now at 36, I dont' have any, but held on to 2 of the properties :)

I work in financial services, and whilst there has been a huge amount of common sense posted in this thread already that I would fully endorse, I'd just correct one point. Having a credit card with a good regular repayment history counts for precisely nothing, unless you really need someone to delve into your individual credit history. Having a credit card, using it once every 12 - 15 months, and repaying it - that WILL make a positive mark on your credit history.

Once you have the card, as you're assessed at the time you take it out, you will not receive any 'positive' credit history points for regularly paying it off. You're already at the top of the list. Rather, like boxing where you start each round with 10 points and can only lose, you will only lose if you start to fail to repay either regularly or in full.

At present in the current climate, the amount of potential credit exposure you have, i.e. 5 cards with £40,000 of potential spending, even if not used, is an important part of your rating along with past history on failures to repay.

Altogether more significant are the number of applications you have made, whether they were successful and the amount of potential credit offered.

Anyway, back on the wholly more interesting subject of i7. I'm a sucker for the latest tech and i7 is no exception. However, despite seeing all these shiney new systems start to be posted, I think I still have to wait until the 32nm shrink comes in. My overclocked 9450 is still doing nicely, and I don't want an expensive new motherboard coupled with new DDR3 RAM yet.

If I was sitting on a P4 system, I'd be all over i7 like a bad ASDA suit but as it is, despite most of my work being crunching image and video files, I think I can wait a while - it isn't compelling enough for me to have the appetite to be forking out £1k+.

Having said that, there seems to be a lot of messages saying that i7 is a failure, which I personally completely disagree with. A lot of users, myself included, have taken the massive performance of Core 2 Duo / Quad in it's various guises to be the norm. Let's not forget the absolutely huge performance gains that this architecture delivered. i7 doesn't give the same massive gain, but it does give a really good improvement, hopefully one which will be enhanced by the forthcoming 32nm shrink in mid 2009.

Good luck to all those who have taken the i7 plunge though - despite the above I am still jealous!
 
Anyway, back on the wholly more interesting subject of i7. I'm a sucker for the latest tech and i7 is no exception. However, despite seeing all these shiney new systems start to be posted, I think I still have to wait until the 32nm shrink comes in. My overclocked 9450 is still doing nicely, and I don't want an expensive new motherboard coupled with new DDR3 RAM yet.

If I was sitting on a P4 system, I'd be all over i7 like a bad ASDA suit but as it is, despite most of my work being crunching image and video files, I think I can wait a while - it isn't compelling enough for me to have the appetite to be forking out £1k+.

Having said that, there seems to be a lot of messages saying that i7 is a failure, which I personally completely disagree with. A lot of users, myself included, have taken the massive performance of Core 2 Duo / Quad in it's various guises to be the norm. Let's not forget the absolutely huge performance gains that this architecture delivered. i7 doesn't give the same massive gain, but it does give a really good improvement, hopefully one which will be enhanced by the forthcoming 32nm shrink in mid 2009.

Good luck to all those who have taken the i7 plunge though - despite the above I am still jealous!

Are you sure 32nm Westmere is due in mid 2009? because as far as im aware, its not due until the end of 2009 at the earliest, possible early 2010.
 
The last roadmap I saw was August 2009 - quite happy to be proved wrong though.

I was hoping that it would be close to Windows 7 though - would be a great dual upgrade.
 
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