The problem is the heatsinks on the P35-DQ6 are not only too tall, they're positioned all around the LGA in close proximity, making it difficult to fit anything other than stock Intel coolers on.
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The problem is the heatsinks on the P35-DQ6 are not only too tall, they're positioned all around the LGA in close proximity, making it difficult to fit anything other than stock Intel coolers on.
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yup, the thing is, every mobo ever made can accomdate the size/area that sink takes up, you just have to use a small amount of brain power to locate that heatsink out of the way, just relocated 2 inches to the left, where there is nothing, and wouldn't interfere with anything doesn't seem hard to work out, yet they didn't.
Just seen pics of the gigabyte p45 extreme while trying to decide on a new motherboard to get, its got an insanely sized sink but its very slim, and extends miles out from the mobo, it shouldn't really interfere with anything.
Frankly cpu, and gpu heatsinks all have SO much space to use as almost all normal cases sold have so much space between the end of a gfx card and the side of a case that heatsinks could sit around in.
I'm completely ridiculously confused about motherboards though, my system right now is crashing in so many varied ways I have no clue whats actually at fault, replacing the normal things has done nothing so far. thinking replace mobo and Gigabyte have 24 various boards JUST for the P45 chipset, another 8 or so for P43, another few for the X48, its just such overkill. Doing my head in trying to find the right board at the moment.
Half of ASus's boards, and others, have lovely little things covering heatsinks with their logo's on, ASus do it so often, my 975x i think it was had a massive sink on the northbridge, with a loverly , connected by glue, cover blocking 90% of the case airflow getting to it, why? I have no clue.
Asus do seem to have slipped a bit on their boards yes they are very well specced but i think thats half the trouble they have so many features on them that sometimes not as much attention to the basics is there and the board suffers. I havn't used one of the P5Q boards so might have changed but the last Asus board i had that gave me no trouble was an A7 delux board everyone since then has had some sort of problem (well only been two). It was one of the reasons why i was looking for a different maker and am happy with what i now have as it has been completely trouble free so doubt i will be going back to Asus anytime soon.
What i dont understand is that people on this forum said they were awesome when they were released two years ago.Now all these people are saying the new asus boards are great, are we going to see in a couple of months the same as what happened with the extreme680i? Makes me wonder as i usually depend on sites and forums like this to make my decisions, most of the time people are right, my e6600 cpu being one of them, 2 years old next month and still an awesome cpu.But on the motherboard front i am dissapointed. Another thing i just cant get my head around is how a massive heatsink and heatpipe arangement on the extreme 680i runs much hotter than the smaller arangement on the reference 680i boards.At the moment trying to convince my younger brother to swop for his EVGA referance board, wish me luck
I think your relatively safe with the P45 chipset as it is basically the old reliable P35 with some added features and therefore is unlikely to have the multitude of problems that have befell the nforce chipset in recent years. Quality of the boards themself and how they implement chipsets and features is a dodgy area as if you'd asked me a couple of years ago i would have said straight away can't go wrong with Asus but now i definately wouldn't say that.
Although i love the mobo i have now and it has been completely trouble free i can't recommend it on how it will be in a years time as i havn't had it that long nor can i say it will be trouble fre in a weeks time. You always take a bit of a punt on hardware and sadly many of the review sites now are more interested in their own agenda then giving us the consumer unbiased opinion and results. Same with many forums there seems to be an outbreak of fanboyism on many forums now making it hard to get subjective independent purchasing advice.
Although i love the mobo i have now and it has been completely trouble free i can't recommend it on how it will be in a years time as i havn't had it that long nor can i say it will be trouble fre in a weeks time. You always take a bit of a punt on hardware and sadly many of the review sites now are more interested in their own agenda then giving us the consumer unbiased opinion and results. Same with many forums there seems to be an outbreak of fanboyism on many forums now making it hard to get subjective independent purchasing advice.
RizlaKing your last three lines summed it up perfectly. It seems that people who spend over £200 pounds on a board just dont want to admit to its downfalls until they upgrade and then we only hear about all the issues they actually had with the board, now not mentioning any names of the boards but im sure if you read this forum for only an hour you will see what im talking about, are getting rave reviews for a board £250 pounds, and i feel all they are getting for that price is some nice bling. I would love to see an unbiased comparison between this board and a board costing half its price and see if there is actually any difference, this fanboyism that you talk about is so true and is such a shame to see as many people make their decisions based on forums like this.
Just google timmothy, there are plenty of motherboard shootouts etc on the web. Also, this 'fanboyism' is what many marketers might call brand loyalty. I'll keep buying asus because their boards in my experience have been rock solid and really easy to use. I do get your point with regards to the inbreeding of hardward choices but i do think that this phenomenon has some merit.
Dont worry Beh* i have googled and done my homework and i see these expensive boards do seem to have the upper hand, BUT and this is a big but, two years ago i seen these same increases when infact they were actually not true at all! that is why i said an unbiased comparisan, Striker extreme had the upperhand on both the p35 based boards and the referance 680i boards which was not true at all. So what im getting at is there does not seem to be anywhere that i know of that will give you a totally inbiased result, and if there is please point me in the right direction. As for the fanboyism i agree sometimes it is totally true and well founded amd 3-4 years ago had the most fanfoys and they had the best cpu's 2-present intel have the most fanboys and it is well founded as they have the best cpu's for performence and midrange ssystems. On the motherboard,Ram,HDD front though i think fanboyism is not a good thing as there is not really a total winner that is obvious.
Spot on timmothy a lot of it comes down to personal factors such as past experience with a maker how easy their boards were to work with and other pratical stuff like that. Sometimes it pays to go to something new rather then what you are used too or have always used i admit there was a time when i was brand loyal to asus on mobo's and didn't consider anything else but all the problems i had with the last two made my mind up that i should try a new maker.
Yep, thats why i use the forums. I just think you just have to take the advice with a pinch of salt. Also the quality of computer components is often determined by factors that very few people can control such as the week, batch and also the panel. For example, 6 months ago if you had asked anyone what the best mid range 22" gaming monitor, they would have either replied Iiyama E2201W-B1 or Samsung 226-BW. Unfortunately, i got the 226-BW with the crappy panel. I did end up getting it calibrated but it was a major pain in the arse.
I think the moral of the story is that you can only go so far with opinions and reviews, the rest is just luck
I brought my board for 170 inc vat so i didn't really pay a premium over anything else in the X48 range. Looking at the OCUK range, i think the lowest in stock X48 board goes for 164.49 inc vat.
I was two years ago going to go for the p35 based chipset which was the only contender for the 680i, but i heard good things about that chipset on here at that time and the prospect of sli seemed good. Was no p45 based chipset at that time, if you read the thread you would see board was bought 2! years ago
I was refering to your replacement motherboard. As you ended up having to rma it and get another board I was confused as to why you went for another 680i based board.
I did not make the decision based on one site, if anyone remembers that far back all review sites and forums were saying the 680i is the best board, trust me i always do my homework if i am spending a lot of money on an item. As for selling the board, well my replacement was a B grade board and came with no software, cables, I/0 shield, manual, temp sensors so i doubt i would get much for the board, i will just have to put up with it until there is a need to upgrade, only playing at 1280x1024 so my pc can handle most games at full graphics..