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ATI Catalyst 8.11 Hotfix driver for Intel i7 / X58 platform
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I love how quickly ATI respond and bring out improvements 
. Well done!
. Well done!
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Looks like a better hotfix driver than Nvidia's one to me, or im missing something. 
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_180.43_beta.html
Recommended for the best experience on Far Cry 2.
Enables NVIDIA SLI technology on SLI-certified Intel X58-based motherboards.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_180.43_beta.html
Recommended for the best experience on Far Cry 2.
Enables NVIDIA SLI technology on SLI-certified Intel X58-based motherboards.
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The same problem my vista machine gets with its GTX260 in pretty much every 3d app run in a non window?
Grass isnt always greener.
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Ive never had any problems with ATi drivers, but obviously some people do, just like Nvidia's.
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Over the years (7 of them to be exact).
ATi drivers have always been the more stable for me...
I don't have a PC and my Macbook Pro and Mac Pro will both have nvidia chips in them...
ATi drivers have always been the more stable for me...
I don't have a PC and my Macbook Pro and Mac Pro will both have nvidia chips in them...
I have never had that bug with CCC not working or seen the problem on this forum before about changing display settings.
If it is a inbuilt bug to do with ATI cards & ccc then the majority of ATI users should be getting this problem.
The gfx card does not need to be overclocked to get the ATI driver has stopped working. having the mobo memory over clocked or timings too tight can do it as well.
Everything on my rig is std ram, cpu the lot are all set to auto in the bios. I have 2 Vista partitions. On Home Premium it happens now and again. On Ultimate it happens all the time even though it is the exact same hardware and I have the exact same drivers installed lots of people on the ATI official forums have had the same problems for months and no-one from ATI is responding. One thing I have noticed is that Fallout3 installs a beta release of dot.net & an older release of C++ VS 2005 (both of which ATI install as part of their drivers as well). Whether the 2 are related who knows. I have spent so long trying to fix this that I give up now as I have another PC with 2 partitions as well (XP & Vista Home Premium). XP gets the same error now and again. Home Premium never gets it so go figure what thats all about. I put it down to flaky ATI drivers but am past caring as both my ATI cards are going to make way for GTX260-216 as that will offer me a better gaming experience.
Its a compatibility issue with your hardware that i can see.
The fact allot of people on the ATI official forums have problems is to be expected as that's where they will congregate & it would be like saying that most of the people phoning the complaints line have complaints.
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I'm inclined to agree with AWPC I'm afraid. NVidia drivers just 'work' and don't require a multitude of fixes that sometimes work and sometimes don't. Both camps go in different directions, ATI are quick to release drivers that have issues, NV are slow to release them but when they do they are more complete. Both companies arrive at the same destination but use a different route.
Obviously both camps have issues when new games are released and it is nice to see ATI releasing fixes to issues that their cards have promptly. NVidia on the other hand don't seem to have as many issues as ATI and therefore don't require as many hotfixes. Berating a company because they don't release a driver every month is laughable. Ever heard the phrase 'don't fix what isn't broken'?
It's good to see both camps releasing driver updates but it gets on my wick when folk use it as a chance to stir up a fanboy battle and thread trash.
Obviously both camps have issues when new games are released and it is nice to see ATI releasing fixes to issues that their cards have promptly. NVidia on the other hand don't seem to have as many issues as ATI and therefore don't require as many hotfixes. Berating a company because they don't release a driver every month is laughable. Ever heard the phrase 'don't fix what isn't broken'?
It's good to see both camps releasing driver updates but it gets on my wick when folk use it as a chance to stir up a fanboy battle and thread trash.
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If both are treading on the same path then i would have to ask why ATI have more issues to fix than NV, but they are not.
One issue is that TWIMTBP or what ever may have something to do with some titles as they were coded on NV cards so should have less compatibility issues.
Second issue is the speed of tech change & ATI are moving faster & with new tech comes new issues & that to be expected & is no different than AMD having more issues going native quad before Intel with Intel putting 2 dual cores together to make a quad.
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They are not treading the same path but they are both heading in the same direction
. Like I said previously, ATI release drivers quickly that inevitably require further fixes whereas NVidia are slow to release drivers but when they do they work, Both could take either process of releasing drivers so does it really matter if the end result is the same?How exactly are ATI moving faster than NV? Both companies are pretty much inline with each other with regards to technology advancements. Don't deceive yourself into believing ATI are more advanced than NVidia. ATI have been playing catchup for some time. The way I see it both companies are now on an even footing in both price and performance. Which can only be good news for the consumer.
They are not treading the same path but they are both heading in the same direction
How exactly are ATI moving faster than NV? Both companies are pretty much inline with each other with regards to technology advancements. Don't deceive yourself into believing ATI are more advanced than NVidia. ATI have been playing catchup for some time. The way I see it both companies are now on an even footing in both price and performance. Which can only be good news for the consumer.
Heading the same direction is obvious but how fast & the path is important as that is how we live our lives.
ATI is taking the Sky diving/ Snowboarding/ mountain climbing discovering new ground route which is exciting but not always the safest fastest route.
NV will just take the tried & tested plane which is faster allot of the time.
I think your confusing performance over technical features as NV has been behind for a long time as far as when i have been using the PC has been behind technically.
I jumped in at the 1800xt & from there ATI have been technically ahead with better IQ at the time & AA+HDR at the same time.
Since than the only time that i can think of that NV was ahead technically was when the 8800 came out & having the first DX10 card out but are now technically behind again overall.
Dual screen multi GPU support ATI has had for a long time. NV has just got it.
DX10.1 ATI. NV no.
Avivo Video Converter ATI has had that for a long time. NV has just added there own which you must pay for & is not as good.
NV has physics. ATI no.
Allot of people had issues when the 8800 first came out as it was new tech for NV & plus Vista & it was like 6 months for many until things settled down where as ATI was still on old tech & had less issues going over to vista until the new tech 2900xt came out worked out the kinks & brought out the 3870 then made a tech change again with the 4870 & the kinks need working out again as my 4x 3870's don't get the problems of the 4870.
From 8800 to this very day very little has changed technically at the hardware level, just more of the same & even the same goes for their multi GPU approch where ATI has gone from external CF/ PCIE CF only/Internal CF Bridges/2GPU.1 pcb./ & now adding SidePort.
Lets see how smoothly things go for NV when it makes a real tech change again.
same problem :/ oh well
IF, as you say, ATI are technically superior to NV then maybe it's time they behaved responsibly and stop treating their customers as guinea pigs. NV tried it once (7950GX2) and it backfired big time. Technology is all good and well but if you cant get the basics right then releasing an unfinished product because of a feature the minority might use is simply unacceptable in my opinion. I have gone through years of this with ATI, monthly updates with hotfixes on top and finally gave up on them with the stuttering fiasco that was the 3870x2.
I could drone on about PhysX and Cuda and the fact ATI currently struggle to compete core for core but that's just gonna stir up a hornets nest and detract from the OP, which was not my intention at all and shouldn't be in a thread about the latest ATI or NV drivers. I hate fanboy posts as much as the next person and it pains me to read the biased fanboy crap some people spout at the expense of misleading new forum members, or worse, potential buyers.
It seems every other post you read here now is ATI vs NV. Unfortunately this tempts the usual suspects out from under their rocks who see it as an opportunity to have the same digs about one product or another instead of passing on valuable info on products they have owned and experienced first hand.