Help With Vista 64 Gaming

andshrew said:
I've just installed Dawn of War Winter Assault and running with all ingame settings on high and 4xAA forced through the control panel at 1280x1024 I was getting 75fps constantly.

This is on an E6600, 4gb ram and 512mb 8800GT all running stock, using 180.48 graphics driver. Not got any of the other games I'm afraid.
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Just wondering - were you doing over-ride or enhanced AA in the NCP?

Because I can run 16xQ AA in the NCP for this game and it runs fine. But it's not true AA anything like that and looks rubbish. If I over-ride and give the game some proper AA, then performance goes to pot.
 
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HangTime said:
Your Q6600 will be holding you back big style in DoW: DC, as when there are massive fights with huge armies it chugs bigstyle. If any people on this forum have the game and think they have a good computer, let me know and I can provide a savegame just before my fully maxed out Space Marine army encountered some massed Ork defences. It'll eat your puny 4ghz Wolfdale with SLI/Crossfire setup for breakfast :)
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Interesting...

But in my case with it being AA-related, it would be graphics related, and not CPU right?
 
Don't really care what all the vista lovers say, some users will have good experiences with it and some bad. Personally I prefer xp as do most people I know. Overslop, have you tested xp 32 bit yet with your system and found any differences? Because I'd be interested to find out. Or have you fixed the problems in vista?

The E8400 I had ran Vista quite quickly with 4GB RAM, it's just the compatability issues that I can't sort out that keep me away and pushed me back to xp. I also hate the nagware and the fact that even if you turn that off there are still things you just can't do with Vista that you can with xp. I can't gain access to some files on an xp disk for example that any xp installation accesses without problems (not encrypted). I don't hate Vista, but its when it doesn't work properly for some people, those lucky enough to have it working flame them for it. Every PC is different people, remember that!
 
Mattf121 said:
Don't really care what all the vista lovers say, some users will have good experiences with it and some bad. Personally I prefer xp as do most people I know. Overslop, have you tested xp 32 bit yet with your system and found any differences? Because I'd be interested to find out. Or have you fixed the problems in vista?

The E8400 I had ran Vista quite quickly with 4GB RAM, it's just the compatability issues that I can't sort out that keep me away and pushed me back to xp. I also hate the nagware and the fact that even if you turn that off there are still things you just can't do with Vista that you can with xp. I can't gain access to some files on an xp disk for example that any xp installation accesses without problems (not encrypted). I don't hate Vista, but its when it doesn't work properly for some people, those lucky enough to have it working flame them for it. Every PC is different people, remember that!
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I'd hardly describe myself as a Vista lover - I still regard XP as a better OS.

My point is that Vista is no longer so bad that I wouldn't consider using it. And it's support for 4+GB of ram is better, making it useful for those setups.

Last of all, I need to make sure I'm familiar with XP and Vista so I can support users efficiently.
 
Aekeron said:
I'd hardly describe myself as a Vista lover - I still regard XP as a better OS.

My point is that Vista is no longer so bad that I wouldn't consider using it. And it's support for 4+GB of ram is better, making it useful for those setups.

Last of all, I need to make sure I'm familiar with XP and Vista so I can support users efficiently.
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Did I say you were a vista lover? Not everyone that doesn't hate it is one you know. I just get tired of people saying that they are having troubles and some clodhead goes "Well, I never have any problems with that pretty eye candy os, it's so beautiful and always works prefectly for me. You must be a noob."

Also, it's 64 bit OSes that support 4GB+ RAM. The 32 bit Vista (and 32 bit xp) only supports up to 4GB. XP 64 bit and Vista 64 both support more than 4GB.

I also share your view that familiarity with both is useful for helping out others.
 
Overslop said:
Interesting...

But in my case with it being AA-related, it would be graphics related, and not CPU right?
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AA is primarily GPU related although I believe there is a degree of driver overhead involved in terms of the cpu taking a hit (more so than say, increasing the resolution).

Anyway, here's the savegame: http://www.savefile.com/files/1905554
Move the army north/north-east and wait for everything to kick off properly in terms of the fighting, start launching off some special powers etc and monitor your cpu usage and framerate :)
 
I did the bioshock test, i didnt turn aa on but all other settigns the same as yours at 1680 1050 res.

At the fire part i wasnt getting below 125 fps. In the indoor bit i was getting between 150-280 even over 300 at times.

I was unable to test cod 2 cause my disc is damaged (will give it another try now).

And whats with all the people defending vista, i have tried vista many times and always gone back to xp pro, becuase i prefare it. This is not a i hate vista topic , its a help me with vista gaming topic.
 
moomoomoo said:
I did the bioshock test, i didnt turn aa on but all other settigns the same as yours at 1680 1050 res.

At the fire part i wasnt getting below 125 fps. In the indoor bit i was getting between 150-280 even over 300 at times.

I was unable to test cod 2 cause my disc is damaged (will give it another try now).

And whats with all the people defending vista, i have tried vista many times and always gone back to xp pro, becuase i prefare it. This is not a i hate vista topic , its a help me with vista gaming topic.
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Cheers for trying that Bioshock test moomoomoo. Can you try with 4x please? Also, for sake of coparison, what is your PC's spec? And assuming you were running the game in XP then you were in DirectX 9 mode rather than DX10.
 
HangTime said:
AA is primarily GPU related although I believe there is a degree of driver overhead involved in terms of the cpu taking a hit (more so than say, increasing the resolution).

Anyway, here's the savegame: http://www.savefile.com/files/1905554
Move the army north/north-east and wait for everything to kick off properly in terms of the fighting, start launching off some special powers etc and monitor your cpu usage and framerate :)
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OK, will do...

Could I ask you a favour please?

If you have DoW could you start the Eldar mission 3? This is the level I've reached and with AA mode in over-ride, I get horrible FPS even when there is a handful of units right at the start. This would be an easy point of comparison.
 
I use Vista Ultimat 64Bit on my gaming rig. Its an Asus Rampage Formula with a Q9550 (oc'd to 3.6Ghz), 4Gb of OCZ Reaper Ram, and a Sapphire HD4870.

I had problems with low frame rates after updating the ati drivers. I found that Uninstalling the drivers manually and then using driver sweeper before installing the updated drivers worked for me.

I play assassins creed , cod 4 and 5 , far cry 2 and both crysis games and they all run fine.

Try using driver sweeper to get rid of old ati and nvidia drivers before installing the newest drivers.

Like i say , worked for me ;)
 
mmorpheus1 said:
I use Vista Ultimat 64Bit on my gaming rig. Its an Asus Rampage Formula with a Q9550 (oc'd to 3.6Ghz), 4Gb of OCZ Reaper Ram, and a Sapphire HD4870.

I had problems with low frame rates after updating the ati drivers. I found that Uninstalling the drivers manually and then using driver sweeper before installing the updated drivers worked for me.

I play assassins creed , cod 4 and 5 , far cry 2 and both crysis games and they all run fine.

Try using driver sweeper to get rid of old ati and nvidia drivers before installing the newest drivers.

Like i say , worked for me ;)
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Cheers, will give that a try! :)
 
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