*** The Official Football Manager 2009 Thread ***

Won everything first season, undefeated.

Took me ages to crack this :P :rolleyes:

haha

Second season, released a few players, want to get rid of Berba****
Villa want 45 mil for Young... not happening, sold Park to AC milan for 12m.
Got diahrra ? can't spell, from pompy for 8m, he fell out with the staff and they wanted rid of him.
 
Turtles said:
You playing as Man Utd?

Try managing Blue Square North/South division side - whole different game.
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I'm not going to play through my 2'nd season as Manchester United just yet.
I'm going to try and get Sheffield Wednesday promoted and try and do something with that club.

Might look into a really low league team, any tips on a... league 2 side ?
 
Im at xmas period of 1st season with Aston Villa. Getting a formation with the squad is hard, there are ZERO attacking midfielders or anyone who can really play there, so you got a gap there, meaning you sturggle to make chances. I play a 4-5-1, and i've spent days working out tactics, reading over the 50 page TTF guide and i don't think i can improve on my tactics, so now it's formation, forward runs and players:

GK Friedel | LB Marcelo | CB Davis | CB Cuellar | RB L. Young
DM Camacho
CM Barry | CM Reo-Coker
AML Young | AMR Milner
FC Agbonlahor

So far i am 8th on 26 points i think,still in UEFA cup groups. Problem is getting shots. My tactics are so precise that i usually have most possession and stop other team getting chances (Though, i get the usual 89th mintue goal against me every match, like the last 10 years...), but i have few shtos on target and my striker does nothing, rarely see's ball. Basically, you need a line of midfielders or a good AMC to supply the striker, else nothing happens, wingers just don't cut it.

Therefore, i think i just need a quality striker, as Agbonlahor and especially Carew are extremely poor. i.e. can have 14 shots, 3 on target lol.

Anyone got formation suggestions who know the team?

Transfers In:

Saivet -FC- Contract (£2.2-5.7m)
He's still very poor at the moment, improving slowly, probably won't see any use until next season.
Camacho -DM- £3.9m
Not bad, still young so one for next season too, but makes a lot of mistakes at moment.
Marcelo-WB/L- £3.9m
Seemed bargain at the time and he's hit or miss and LB, he'll be real good or real bad.

Inc. Jan:

Santon-RB-£2.8m
Luke Young don't cut it at RB, so this guy looks like a bargain, but again a future prospect.
Wijnaldum-AMRLC-£3.5m
Scouts say potential to far exceed Ashley Young as winger, that'll do me.

Why is everyone after Young anyway? He's ok, but stats wise there's a lot better for a lot cheaper.

Barry is immense, as are the centre backs, Davis just seems to clear up any mess.

Formation though i need to sort, got good defensive players, so i don't wanna go attacking, but at least want to get more support for wingers and lone striker, focus passing is on mixed, hmm.
 
V3g3tto said:
Why is everyone after Young anyway? He's ok, but stats wise there's a lot better for a lot cheaper.
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Stats are... funny. It goes more on a players "CA" (Current Ability). If you get a player with a CA of 195/200 and has 12/20 for Finishing, they will score more goals than someone with a CA of 130/200 that has 17/20 in Finishing. Just the way the game works. An example would be Graham Kavanagh that players for Sunderland, his stats are very good, but someone that is no where near him in stats will outplay him if their CA is higher - not because of his age.
 
Ahh i see. He does get good ratings and him and Barry and probably only people who score. It's trying to fit them in. Do you think i can play him ML? Playing AM/RL is hard, unless i did 4-2-2-2, thats 4 backline, 2 CM's, 2 Wingers in AM positions and 2 strikers. I don't think lone striker is working for me, so either that or drop milner and go for straight 4-4-2, with Young-Barry-Camacho-Reo-coker across midfield.

Damn, thats good actually, i only lose milner, just need a good striker, just hoping young can play ML with farrow well.
 
Wow, this game is hard compared to previous versions (or is it just me)?

I currently sit bottom of the Premier League with Hull after 10 games. Won 1, Drawn 1, Lost 8.

My team are OK, I have a decent midfield, ok forwards, the defence is probably lacking but I still would have thought I would get some wins. I don't know what I am doing wrong :(
 
For those people looking for some quality players with very good potential I can recommend the following: (I also have a list of every -10 and -9 rated potential players but at 15 pages in length I am not cutting and pasting it here.

Mamadou Sakho is the only -10 rated defender in the game.

If your looking for a decent keeper, I know many have purchased Asenjo, try Fiorillo from Sampdoria (the only -10 rated keeper in the game).

yeah already looked at fazio looks a great player. I know im greedy but does any1 no of any future CM aswell
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Depending on how much cash you have, a couple of -10 rated central midfielders worth looking at:

Edgar Andrade - MRC - Cruz Azul
Thiago - MC - Barca B
Rik Schouw - MRC - Ajax
Alenandre Coeff - MC - Lens
Franco Zuculini - DM, MRC - Racing Club
 
I think, unless you are a major team or you have particular stars in certain areas, i've think 4-4-2 formation is best way. I'm 8th now, so should do better a little, but i think finishing high 1st season is a bit over-ambitious. As for tactics, try these for standard controlling game:

.4-4-2 Team Instructions
Tempo 10
Width 10
Time Wasting 10
Tackling Mixed
Focus Passing Mixed
Play Offside No
Counter Attack Yes

Individual Instructions
Position Role Closing Down Passing Creative Freedom Forward Runs Run With Ball Cross Ball Cross From Through Balls Long Shots Hold Up Ball Marking Tight Marking Free Role
GK Defend 7 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
DR Support 9 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often Man *
DL Support 9 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often Man *
DC Defend 7 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
DC Defend 7 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
MR Attack 13 7 15 Often Often Often Mixed Mixed Mixed Zonal
ML Attack 13 7 15 Often Often Often Mixed Mixed Mixed Zonal
MC Attack 13 7 15 Often Often Often Mixed Mixed Mixed * Zonal
MC Defend 11 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
FC Support 13 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often * Man *
FC Support 15 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often Man *

Note: Read column titles across, then read player isntructions across, because they won't format properly.
 
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Team cohension matters A LOT more on this game, if you sign too many at the start of the game, be prepared to get a hammering until at least January. TTF based tactics are the ones that are currently working the best for most people - the attacking v3 TTF based tactic by some guy called "Matt" worked wonders for me - allowed me to finish in 3rd position in the first season as Sunderland, with no new signings at all.

You can download it here: http://rapidshare.com/files/167531344/Matts_Tacs_V3.rar

Ignore all tactics other than "Attacking" and use that persistantly, see what it does for your team. Note that it'll take you about 5 games I'd imagine to be able to get your players slightly used to the tactic and they are most likely more used to playing at different tempo's / width and so forth.

V3g3tto said:
Ahh i see. He does get good ratings and him and Barry and probably only people who score. It's trying to fit them in. Do you think i can play him ML? Playing AM/RL is hard, unless i did 4-2-2-2, thats 4 backline, 2 CM's, 2 Wingers in AM positions and 2 strikers. I don't think lone striker is working for me, so either that or drop milner and go for straight 4-4-2, with Young-Barry-Camacho-Reo-coker across midfield.

Damn, thats good actually, i only lose milner, just need a good striker, just hoping young can play ML with farrow well.
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Yep he works great at ML.
 
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Twinblade said:
For those people looking for some quality players with very good potential I can recommend the following: (I also have a list of every -10 and -9 rated potential players but at 15 pages in length I am not cutting and pasting it here.

Mamadou Sakho is the only -10 rated defender in the game.

If your looking for a decent keeper, I know many have purchased Asenjo, try Fiorillo from Sampdoria (the only -10 rated keeper in the game).



Depending on how much cash you have, a couple of -10 rated central midfielders worth looking at:

Edgar Andrade - MRC - Cruz Azul
Thiago - MC - Barca B
Rik Schouw - MRC - Ajax
Alenandre Coeff - MC - Lens
Franco Zuculini - DM, MRC - Racing Club
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I'm trying not to do that, i'm just going off what i know were good in last version and what my scouts say, i only really wanna buy 1 or 2 who i know potential stats for, else ruins it a bit. i.e. Santon i didn't know about, but camacho, saivet and marcelo i found myself.

Scouts say Sakho would be £18m :(, but Villa defence is solid anyway. Keeper wise, they want £8m for Fiorillo, though i only have £5 (might spend that on Wijnaldum, another from FM2008).

This years version is very hard i think, you need the formation for the players, not players for formation in first season. Trouble is, if you chop and change it, you will lose. Ideally, you know what to do before you even start a new game. Going to switch to 4-4-2 ATT later, which will mean a few games of bad performances until they get used to it. :(
 
flibby said:
Team cohension matters A LOT more on this game, if you sign too many at the start of the game, be prepared to get a hammering until at least January. TTF based tactics are the ones that are currently working the best for most people - the attacking v3 TTF based tactic by some guy called "Matt" worked wonders for me - allowed me to finish in 3rd position in the first season as Sunderland, with no new signings at all.

You can download it here: http://rapidshare.com/files/167531344/Matts_Tacs_V3.rar

Ignore all tactics other than "Attacking" and use that persistantly, see what it does for your team. Note that it'll take you about 5 games I'd imagine to be able to get your players slightly used to the tactic and they are most likely more used to playing at different tempo's / width and so forth.


Yep he works great at ML.
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Thanks for that. Well i DL'd the TTF PDF's and it came with the Excel sheet and a folder full of tactics, although all need tweaking. But i'll try that when i get home. For the 4-4-2 i'm basically dropping wingers to ML/R's and replacing DMC with another striker. Was bit concerned about attacking as it's so easy to leak goals in this game and attackign means you lose possession a lot (Villa players suck at passing, except Barry, rest are <13).

Ahh great, i can put reo-coker on other wing (swap for milner or wijnaldum if i buy him, when attacking). I signed 3, 2 of which play, but Santon in Jan. NEED good striker though, neither of mine have finishing above 12 lol, very poor mental and technical stats., though i hear i can get Owen cheap in Jan, hopefully in that window, not end of season contract signing.
 
Oh one more thing flibby, can you tell me what formation those tactics are? They seem to follow the 5 setups in TTF, which is awesome and saves me time, but can't see what formation or framework they are cos im at work (nowt to do at moment, so wanna plan my tactics for when i get home :P).

I'll use the shut up shop one often though, Football Manager ALWAYS has teams score in last 5 mins. For years it's been like that. Last game, Everton away. 2-0 up, dominating, they are 10 men. I up time wasting, turn off farrows. they still score 2 in last 10 mins lol.
 
V3g3tto said:
I think, unless you are a major team or you have particular stars in certain areas, i've think 4-4-2 formation is best way. I'm 8th now, so should do better a little, but i think finishing high 1st season is a bit over-ambitious. As for tactics, try these for standard controlling game:

.4-4-2 Team Instructions
Tempo 10
Width 10
Time Wasting 10
Tackling Mixed
Focus Passing Mixed
Play Offside No
Counter Attack Yes

Individual Instructions
Position Role Closing Down Passing Creative Freedom Forward Runs Run With Ball Cross Ball Cross From Through Balls Long Shots Hold Up Ball Marking Tight Marking Free Role
GK Defend 7 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
DR Support 9 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often Man *
DL Support 9 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often Man *
DC Defend 7 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
DC Defend 7 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
MR Attack 13 7 15 Often Often Often Mixed Mixed Mixed Zonal
ML Attack 13 7 15 Often Often Often Mixed Mixed Mixed Zonal
MC Attack 13 7 15 Often Often Often Mixed Mixed Mixed * Zonal
MC Defend 11 11 5 Rarely Rarely Rarely Mixed Rarely Rarely Man *
FC Support 13 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often * Man *
FC Support 15 13 10 Mixed Mixed Mixed Mixed Often Often Man *

Note: Read column titles across, then read player isntructions across, because they won't format properly.
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Cool, thanks. I'll try this out tonight :)
 
V3g3tto said:
Oh one more thing flibby, can you tell me what formation those tactics are? They seem to follow the 5 setups in TTF, which is awesome and saves me time, but can't see what formation or framework they are cos im at work (nowt to do at moment, so wanna plan my tactics for when i get home :P).

I'll use the shut up shop one often though, Football Manager ALWAYS has teams score in last 5 mins. For years it's been like that. Last game, Everton away. 2-0 up, dominating, they are 10 men. I up time wasting, turn off farrows. they still score 2 in last 10 mins lol.
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They are a 4-4-2 formation. Here's a screeny of the "Attacking" setup:

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ScarySquirrel said:
Wow, this game is hard compared to previous versions (or is it just me)?

I currently sit bottom of the Premier League with Hull after 10 games. Won 1, Drawn 1, Lost 8.

My team are OK, I have a decent midfield, ok forwards, the defence is probably lacking but I still would have thought I would get some wins. I don't know what I am doing wrong :(
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Hull is where you are going wrong :rolleyes:

Seriously, are you scoring goals and letting them in ?
Or just letting them in ?

Because a leaky defence is easier to fix then a team that can't do anything.
 
I haven't started playing yet, only purchased the game yesterday but been reading the TTF guide (some 18,000 words) on SI and trying to plan what I am going to do.

I usually start all my games with Lyon in France then after a season or 2 load up one with Spurs and play the two of them before heading off to the lower leagues once the game is sorted out (usually 2 patches in).

Seems some people are having some interesting seasons and it makes a change from having people using the big teams all the time (Arsenal, Man Utd, Barca) which you seem to get most of on the SI forum.

Anyone give me an insight on what to expect from Pavlyuchenko when I finally start my game? I usually try and build a tactic around a target man, and in real life he is good in the air and should fit this role well, so whilst sitting here I have him pencilled in for the job, just need clarification.
 
Excellent flibby, that's the exact formation i was going to make, so i'll check out the instructions and see what he's done with it. I might tone them down a bit though, for a few reasons:

1) Poor passing rating all round, so don't want defenders passing too short, nor attackers passing too direct, so will probably have it mainyl mixed, with strikers on short, defenders on direct.
2) Strong, excellent defending, determined team, but no real flair or pace except Young, and again, our passing and crossing is a bit pants with no one really to get on end of them, so a narrower width would suit.
3) Because of above, a slower tempo would be needed until get better passing.
4) Would probably need a striker dropping deep to colelct ball as a FCd, as my attacking midfielder is barry, so not one to run forward with ball and shoot.

Ugh, this game, you have to think of it like it's real. Which is kinda cool though :)
 
On that formation, I find that a clinical striker on the ST left side and having a tall striker to head down on the right. Such as I had Cisse on the left and Kenwyne Jones on the right and it worked a treat. Cisse has 8 goals in 4 games in pre-season.
 
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