Games cliches that really annoy you
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I think you're right here, but need to push it a little. A game NEEDS graphics, and good graphics, to give it the right atmosphere and feel. But 'good' graphics doesn't mean super silky textures that look better than real life, it means graphics that fit the game to a tee.
I think Darwinia is a great example:
No super realistic textures, no super realistic physics that make trees burst into flame or bullets go through wood and look smack on, but goddamn does that game look gorgeous.
Bottom line; The graphics need to fit the game.
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pc gaming is weird (for me)..i dont like bf2 that much but ill do a 6/12 hour battle on a saturday /sunday 5pm till 5am.. and praccy all week .. just becuase ilike the guys and girls i play with..
your talking in this case about stylised graphics which has a function of enhancing a a very specific type of game, usually exaggerated in its essence.
its usually a realistic vs stylised argument.
most of these but not all are related to fps games..
"next gen"
"you are the last hope for mankind" -- so they start you off with the worst weapons they could find
trying to use the lift, and finding the power is out and you have to juice it back up (DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING)
rpg's -- you have an annoying side kick that looks like a cross between a child and a cat and your mission is to find the other three parts of your broken amulet -- there are so many rpg cliches
the "vehicle level" (which i always end up enjoying)
the "sniper level" (which i always hope i'll like, but i don't. yes, i hated all ghillied up, too)
losing all your weapons half way through and starting again from scratch (haven't seen that in a game in a while though)
the "your walkie talkie/headset that links you to the hot sounding female doesn't work here because you're underground" level
finding shotgun shells before you find a shotgun
the streaks of blood all over the floor signifying there nasty is just up ahead. OR IS HE?
getting absolutley bbq'ed by said nasty early on in the game, but thankfully he's just playing with you and goes away until you become a lot stronger later on (the idiot)
"next gen"
"you are the last hope for mankind" -- so they start you off with the worst weapons they could find
trying to use the lift, and finding the power is out and you have to juice it back up (DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE COMING)
rpg's -- you have an annoying side kick that looks like a cross between a child and a cat and your mission is to find the other three parts of your broken amulet -- there are so many rpg cliches
the "vehicle level" (which i always end up enjoying)
the "sniper level" (which i always hope i'll like, but i don't. yes, i hated all ghillied up, too)
losing all your weapons half way through and starting again from scratch (haven't seen that in a game in a while though)
the "your walkie talkie/headset that links you to the hot sounding female doesn't work here because you're underground" level
finding shotgun shells before you find a shotgun
the streaks of blood all over the floor signifying there nasty is just up ahead. OR IS HE?
getting absolutley bbq'ed by said nasty early on in the game, but thankfully he's just playing with you and goes away until you become a lot stronger later on (the idiot)
Neverwinter Nights 2 managed to earn my eternal displeasure by breaking the record for most cliches crammed into the first hour of a game :
You're a mysterious orphan
You best friend gets killed by a powerful bad guy who subsequently disappears before you can nobble him
You're sent to a graveyard to recover a mysterious artifact
You meet up with a dwarf with a scottish accent who loves to fight
And then with an annoying cocky female thief
and then off to another graveyard full of undead.
God, it was one long parade of overused rubbish
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Don't forget the 'On rails turret/mounted machine gun shooty level'
No, its not just a few guys, if you want to get anywhere in WOW raiding you have to be prepared for some serious timesinking. I quit playing about 6 months after Burning Crusade came out so I can only say what it was like at the time, but I was in a mid-level guild, we did about 3/4 of Ahn Quiraj and 1/2 of Naxx.
When you have a raid of 40 people (plus standbys), the raid will take a minimum of 6-8 hours, often double that. Do that 3 times a week, plus a load of time farming for repair gold and pots, and there aint much time left. The time commitments from the more serious hardcore raiding guilds are insane (compared to a non-WOW player's time).
Plus when you are an important part of a raid setup you feel committed to the cause and want to play as much as possible to improve your guildmate's chances of winning, and of course to get the best loot possible. It is incredibly easy to fall into a routine of doing nothing but playing WOW in your spare time, neglecting family, friends, job etc...IIRC I clocked up the equivalent of something like 2 and a half months of non-stop solid play within a year, it was pretty bad.
So yes, its a cliche, but not one that is entirely without reason as Sleepery said.
On this forum alone you'll see quite a few posts of people really overdoing it in WoW. There was one only a week or two ago asking for advice on how to throttle bandwidth to stop a friend playing because he was throwing his life away.
Granted it's only a small percentage of players don't have the self control to know when to stop, a small percentage of 11 million players is still a huge amount of people.
Which probably explains why you hear it so much.
Granted it's only a small percentage of players don't have the self control to know when to stop, a small percentage of 11 million players is still a huge amount of people.
Which probably explains why you hear it so much.
I was in an end game guild, main healer 
I still had plenty of time to socialise, eat dinner with my family and hold down a full time job. Our guild had the server first for every raid in vanilla, except naxx where everyone did it in a different order. BC was the same, although a bunch of people had stopped playing so it became less of a race to beat the other guilds, and more of a relaxed raid for our own enjoyment. I personally stopped playing before the BT raids began though.
Every game is a time sink, WoW needn't be the biggest. I spend more time playing L4D in a night than i ever did playing WoW! (i've missed dinner twice this week).
Like i said, i'm sure there are people who devote their lives to it, but it's a very blanket statement.
This of course, is in my opinion. I'm not discrediting your sor Sleepery, i'm merely conveying that in my experience, it isn't the case.
I still had plenty of time to socialise, eat dinner with my family and hold down a full time job. Our guild had the server first for every raid in vanilla, except naxx where everyone did it in a different order. BC was the same, although a bunch of people had stopped playing so it became less of a race to beat the other guilds, and more of a relaxed raid for our own enjoyment. I personally stopped playing before the BT raids began though.Every game is a time sink, WoW needn't be the biggest. I spend more time playing L4D in a night than i ever did playing WoW! (i've missed dinner twice this week
).Like i said, i'm sure there are people who devote their lives to it, but it's a very blanket statement.
This of course, is in my opinion. I'm not discrediting your sor Sleepery, i'm merely conveying that in my experience, it isn't the case.
Indeed.. I lost a lot of time playing MMO's, but since I've quit MMO's, I've lost a lot of time to TF2 and l4d
Nail on the head there. Especially with the sidekick. Remember Silent Hill? Remember how scary that was, because you were all alone? The new one has the typical wisecracking American sidekick and large-breasted gung-ho women. Not scary.
I can't stand it in games when the AI says something along the lines of 'lets split up' - NO, LETS NOT! Happened more in the earlier games probably down to the lack of competent AI back then but theres no excuse for it anymore.
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Deffo not, graphics for me is something that REALLY does NOT matter.
In fact, i dont play many new games because i find them dull and more graphics based.
You cant game nowerdays imo like you could 4/5 years ago. Q3, TFC everything was rocking. I still play those games now because they are good solid games.
Graphics are pfft to me, as long as the game has some longability i will play it. Probably why i only enjoy old school MP's lol.
Truth be told im installing the old Motocorss Madness 2 right this second, not for the graphics but because i would rather play it and enjoy it than play some good graphic game that will bore me and i will install 10 mins later - Altho im just installing MM2 atm for old time sake, so it will probably happen, but GOD DAMN it isnt all about graphics.
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Hahaha yeah, and you can bet your last shotgun shell that 95% of the time, once you complete your objective, your mate will have somehow landed himself in trouble and either be pinned down by an ambush until you arrive, or captured and need rescuing in the next mission.
This annoys me. I'm a 27yr old bloke with a full time job in the military but I like to occasionally play online COD4 an now COD5. I don't have time to play either online often enough to be at ultimate super l33t uber daddy level yet I am penalised by inferior weapons and thus owned on occasion. The best part is getting some American little spot ridden teenager barking down the headset that my skillz are whack. Aye, lets go on the range with real rifles mate.
Wouldn't say a hundred times better, but yeh it does look better.
Shame its a pile of turd to drive.
As to Cliches, bosses with odd ways to kill them (Tomb Raider Legend did my head in with this!) and explosive barrels just make me laugh now
