Gabe Newell "DRM is dumb"

muppet · 3 Dec 2008 at 18:59

hi
yes i have a steam account and i have hl2 ,ep1 , and ep2 and i will be getting ep3 but they are as most people will agree " must haves " . a lot of games arent and mistakes are made but at least i can recoupe some of my money . " nobody will miss me " . i think the pc games industry, nvidia/ati , intel will miss me upgrading my system every 2 years and 1 more thing why is farcry2 $50 on steam and only £17 on a site that sounds like a very big river

cheers
edit : call of duty 4 on steam $60 ON AN AUCTION SITE £5.01 pence . if everything goes through steam like some people want that becomes a monopoly and we know how dangerous they are

cheers again and thanks for listening to my rant . im off to play dead space now , trying to get past that 3 armed beastie with the big gob in the middle ( yes the PC version ) .

ljt · 3 Dec 2008 at 19:17

too be honest, the way in which DRM is heading (limited installs etc) it wont be long before you can't sell on the physical media version of the games because they wont install on another machine.

muppet · 3 Dec 2008 at 19:22

exactly they are strangling the gamer who has finished a game / dont like and is trying to make a few quid back
cheers

Pixel · 3 Dec 2008 at 19:34

Thank god someone influential in the gaming industry is speaking out against the abomination of DRM. He hit the nail on the head when he said "The goal should be to create greater value for customers through service value, not by decreasing the value of a product."

[noodle] · 3 Dec 2008 at 19:49

muppet said:
call of duty 4 on steam $60 ON AN AUCTION SITE £5.01 pence . if everything goes through steam like some people want that becomes a monopoly and we know how dangerous they are.

Valve/Steam don't decide the prices for the games that aren't theirs. That price will be due to Activision, not Valve.
Valve do sell (their own) stuff a bit expensively over Steam though.

SB118 · 3 Dec 2008 at 20:31

Steam is great BUT you can't play all the games you've paid for.

My eldest can't play Portal while i'm playing TF2, even though i've bought two separate games.

Skeeter · 3 Dec 2008 at 20:36

SB118 said:
Steam is great BUT you can't play all the games you've paid for.

My eldest can't play Portal while i'm playing TF2, even though i've bought two separate games.

Huh?

craptakular · 3 Dec 2008 at 20:45

IZ WHANT GABE DEEPS INSID MEH!

SB118 · 3 Dec 2008 at 20:46

Skeeter said:
Huh?

If i sit in the living room and play TF2 on my pc, my daughter can't play Portal in her room at the same time. Steam won't let the games be active at the same time.

Even though i've paid for two games.

craptakular · 3 Dec 2008 at 20:55

SB118 said:
If i sit in the living room and play TF2 on my pc, my daughter can't play Portal in her room at the same time. Steam won't let the games be active at the same time.

Even though i've paid for two games.

Interesting, never thought of that!

apeZ · 3 Dec 2008 at 20:57

This is why I continue to love Valve.

Tombo · 3 Dec 2008 at 22:25

SB118 said:
If i sit in the living room and play TF2 on my pc, my daughter can't play Portal in her room at the same time. Steam won't let the games be active at the same time.

Even though i've paid for two games.

She can play Portal in offline mode.

Gimpymoo · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:15

C'MON EVERYONE, Jump aboard the STEAM Train.

GABE+VALVE+STEAM = WIN WIN WIN

I LOVE VALVE - I LOVE STEAM

If EA jumped onboard the STEAM Train, it would be great business for them.

If other devs/publishers stopped setting such high prices and said "SCREW THE BRICKS AND MORTAR RETAILERS" - The world would be a better place.

rypt · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:21

Put it on two seperate accounts and it will .. each account is ment to be a specific user, not a specific household.

SB118 · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:34

rypt said:
Put it on two seperate accounts and it will .. each account is ment to be a specific user, not a specific household.

So i buy a game but my daughter isn't allowed to play it? If you're the only person in the house who plays the games it's fine, but once you've got a couple of gamers Steam is very restrictive despite the fact that you've paid for the games.

rypt · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:38

SB118 said:
So i buy a game but my daughter isn't allowed to play it? If you're the only person in the house who plays the games it's fine, but once you've got a couple of gamers Steam is very restrictive despite the fact that you've paid for the games.

She can play it, just not at same time as you if it's on same account.

It's like MSN messenger, can both you and your daughter talk on it while using just one account? ... No.

Steam works the same way, which is perfectly fine until you start wanting to share games - something I don't have a problem with really.

saguy · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:39

Steam is awesome in theory, but the reality of it is that you are always going pay more than anywhere else for games.

Vern1961 · 3 Dec 2008 at 23:58

And of course the big disadvantage with Steam...until the UK Broadband industry comes into the 21st century with genuine unlimited bandwidth/no throttling all at a reasonable price you are going to struggle to download what you want without blowing visible or invisible monthly limits.

Let's hope the guy was referencing the wider supply of games not just his own particular interests.

rypt · 4 Dec 2008 at 00:05

Vern1961 said:
And of course the big disadvantage with Steam...until the UK Broadband industry comes into the 21st century with genuine unlimited bandwidth/no throttling all at a reasonable price you are going to struggle to download what you want without blowing visible or invisible monthly limits.

Let's hope the guy was referencing the wider supply of games not just his own particular interests.

Just get Be/O2

SB118 · 4 Dec 2008 at 00:11

rypt said:
She can play it, just not at same time as you if it's on same account.

It's like MSN messenger, can both you and your daughter talk on it while using just one account? ... No.

Steam works the same way, which is perfectly fine until you start wanting to share games - something I don't have a problem with really.

Your comparison with MSN doesn't work, MSN is free.

If i pay £15 for game A and £15 for game B my family aren't allowed to play game B if i'm playing game A??