Jack: A solider's story

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Hey,

Did anyone watch Jack: A solider's story on BBC One at 9pm today?

I was surprised to hear how little the soliders are paid for what they do (£19,000) but then again they are supplied with all they need to live.

The whole story was basically about a solider who had been through four tours of duty, risked his life for his country over and over, and seen his friends die. He then came back from his last tour and assaulted a police officer who was trying to stop a fight he was in against a rival regiment.

When he went to court he expected 18 months in jail and to be thrown out of the army. I was rooting for the guy tbh. I know what he done was wrong but after everything he's done and been through there are bound to be occasions where things can go wrong. He ended up getting a community order, sent to anger management classes, £1,300 fine and he left the army.

How should soliders be punished for civi law breaking? Does more need to be done to help soliders adapt back to normal life?
 
Just watched this too.

There are going to be problems when you train people to kill, send them off to kill people and then expect them to just readjust to the 'normal world' when they return. I'm not really sure how you'd rectify the problem tbh though..
 
yeah put a man through that much violence, and you've gotta expect when he;s faced with more he won't stop as quick as a normal person.

He cn do more for his country (and more cheaply) at war than in prison.
 
I saw that too AGGGESSSS ago. Was a very sad story tbh. He should have been dealt with like everyone else. As long as common sense is used. Quite often common sense is used in courts believe it or not. And so on that count i would consider how he had bene asoldier and assume that it may just be a one off.
 
Seen it a while ago. The bit where that afghan soldier is engaging the Taliban and the top cover of his AK-47 gets blown off by an incoming bullet never ceases to amaze me. Couldn't believe his reaction either! :eek:
 
Yeah I watched it ages ago too. It was a really good documentary.

The Afghani recruits are hilarious. Especially the one that got the magazine shot off his gun and he jumped in behind the wall and everyone was just laughing. :D

Edit: Ha ha beaten.
 
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Jambo said:
The Afghani recruits are hilarious. Especially the one that got the magazine shot off his gun and he jumped in behind the wall and everyone was just laughing. :D
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Yeah, that was awesome. They were all high on cannabis too when they started smoking it during the break in fighting.

How can they be so relaxed while fighting a war.... :p
 
Soviet said:
Seen it a while ago. The bit where that afghan soldier is engaging the Taliban and the top cover of his AK-47 gets blown off by an incoming bullet never ceases to amaze me. Couldn't believe his reaction either! :eek:
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Partly because it didn't get hit by a bullet, the recoil caused the cover to spring off from the AK-47 after he tried to fire a rifle grenade and also the guy was either high on hash or heroin.
 
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Soviet said:
Seen it a while ago. The bit where that afghan soldier is engaging the Taliban and the top cover of his AK-47 gets blown off by an incoming bullet never ceases to amaze me. Couldn't believe his reaction either! :eek:
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what was his reaction?
 
rz30 said:
Partly because it didn't get hit by a bullet, the recoil caused the cover to spring off from the AK-47 after he tried to fire a rifle grenade and also they guy was either high on hash or heroin.
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The narrator said the Taliban shot the magazine off his gun.
 
Dharok said:
They all just laughed at it and got on with it, back to normal 5-10 seconds later. No shock in them, just laughter.
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That's because they're all high on opium the whole time. Granted the ANA and ANP can be a great assistance, but a lot of the time they squabble, are poorly trained and have even been known to give the damn Taliban tactical information. It's not their fault though as after countless wars, they've just become pragmatic, siding with who they think will win the war or by who their village elders tell them to fight for. Thus, you get many men joining both sides and building up huge distrust.

What we really need is more investment into the men already out there. They're doing a hard job under extreme conditions and not enough equipment. No wonder the war's all but being forgotten about. How can we possibly hope to end the conflict any time soon when men don't have enough equipment to do the job?
 
Nix said:
That's because they're all high on opium the whole time. Granted the ANA and ANP can be a great assistance, but a lot of the time they squabble, are poorly trained?
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Never underestimate the advantage of cannon fodder ;)
 
Not only have the been known to give the Taliban info, they will actually fight for the Taliban if they are either offered decent money by them or they think the Taliban have the stronger side in any particlar fight. They fight for the side they feel is the strongest at the time.
 
rz30 said:
Watch and pause it, the magazine is still on ,

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1842751441
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Seems to be a controversial issue on that page. But on that video they said magazine was shot off as well and a guy in the comments said:

eh i was there mupets and the mag was shot off idiots only *** when u nr spoken too ok
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I don't know anything about guns, I am just saying what they said on the programme.
 
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