want some top advice about overclocking

right how will i getmy temps lower
do i use air or water cooling i want to o/c this cpu to at least 3.2ghz
anyone help with the settings i need to alter
 
The best way to learn how to overclock is to read some guides and try it yourself, not as some guys on the internet to do it for you
 
Pilky01 are you on a mission to scare off as many newbies as possible or something?

This is the second time in a few days that you've been very curt with a new member, and both times the only advice you've eventually offered is to search or use Google.


This isn't GD. These are the support forums of a national retailer. If you can't answer the query then leave it for someone else to have a try at. Telling them to use the search function or - worse still - run to Google isn't really on tbh.
 
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Cob said:
Pilky01 are you on a mission to scare off as many newbies as possible or something?

This is the second time in a few days that you've been very curt with a new member, and both times the only advice you've eventually offered is to search or use Google.


This isn't GD. These are the support forums of a national retailer. If you can't answer the query then leave it for someone else to have a try at. Telling them to use the search function or - worse still - run to Google isn't really on tbh.
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hey guys i only want some top advice no need to war over it.
we are all here to help one another,
i dont understand this overclocking stuff, i get the fsb bit but dont understand the altering of the cpu voltage or the memory timings and the memory voltages.
i have only done the fsb in increments of 3 then let it run for 2-3 hours then push it again by 3.
but when i get so far my rig shuts down have i pushed it too far on the fsb on standard voltage on the cpu?
do i need to increeese the voltage which is at 1.2 volts stock if so how much do i alter it by.
if im coorect do i then push the fsb by 3 or 5 increments after the cpu voltage has been alterd
 
I would try increments of 5mhz or so. 3mhz is a little small.

Usually if you hit a limit then yip you would need to raise the CPU voltage a notch or two (say 0.025v) and test again. If that works then you can go ahead and raise the FSB again. If raising the CPU voltage doesn't help then it's usually one of the chipset voltages that needs to be raised instead (again by 0.025v or so).

But you also need to ensure that your memory stays in spec, and that you have set its correct voltage. It's a good idea to set the memory speed to a low setting to start with. You can worry about the final memory speed when you have finished clocking the CPU.

Also don't the Black editions come with an unlocked multiplier? You should be able to gain a good few MHZ without having to touch the FSB (tho I may be wrong about this bit as I haven't touched an AMD system for a few years now).


And welcome to the forums :)
 
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If you get to a situation where a certain FSB runs fine under full load for hours, and adding 1MHz to it makes the machine fail to boot, then it's something more than just the CPU hitting it's limit. Could be an FSB hole (a range of FSB values that the onboard clock sucks at), for example.

As for keeping the memory in a valid range, let's take the example of my 5600+ based machine.
The main clock is 200 MHz, the RAM runs off that on a multiplyer of 4x giving 800MHz, the CPU runs on a multiplier of 14x giving 2.8GHz.

If you add 20MHz to that, you get a CPU at 3.08GHz and RAM at 880MHZ. BUT you may find the machine falls over. You then try changing the RAM to a multi of 3x (BIOS permitting of course), making the RAM run at 660MHz. You can then start upping the clock speed again until the machine falls over again, which, if the RAM is still at less than 800MHz, is almost certainly your CPU giving up (you can now think about voltages). If the right "balance" on your system happens to leave your memory underclocked a little (for example 700MHz) you can usually get something back from it by tightening it's timings a bit.


AMD overclocking is a black art though. Most people here are Intel fanboys (largely for good reason....I prefer AMD myself, but for my gaming rig I went Intel because you just cannot ignore the silly overclocks you can get from something like a Q6600.....Your AMD will not clock as far, but it will run nicer clock for clock, and the machine will respond quicker for some reason), and know the Intel way of overclocking. You might get better advice on this matter from a dedicated AMD overclocking forum.
 
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If you get to a situation where a certain FSB runs fine under full load for hours, and adding 1MHz to it makes the machine fail to boot, then it's something more than just the CPU hitting it's limit. Could be an FSB hole (a range of FSB values that the onboard clock sucks at), for example.

As for keeping the memory in a valid range, let's take the example of my 5600+ based machine.
The main clock is 200 MHz, the RAM runs off that on a multiplyer of 4x giving 800MHz, the CPU runs on a multiplier of 14x giving 2.8GHz.

If you add 20MHz to that, you get a CPU at 3.08GHz and RAM at 880MHZ. BUT you may find the machine falls over. You then try changing the RAM to a multi of 3x (BIOS permitting of course), making the RAM run at 660MHz. You can then start upping the clock speed again until the machine falls over again, which, if the RAM is still at less than 800MHz, is almost certainly your CPU giving up (you can now think about voltages). If the right "balance" on your system happens to leave your memory underclocked a little (for example 700MHz) you can usually get something back from it by tightening it's timings a bit.


AMD overclocking is a black art though. Most people here are Intel fanboys (largely for good reason....I prefer AMD myself, but for my gaming rig I went Intel because you just cannot ignore the silly overclocks you can get from something like a Q6600.....Your AMD will not clock as far, but it will run nicer clock for clock, and the machine will respond quicker for some reason), and know the Intel way of overclocking. You might get better advice on this matter from a dedicated AMD overclocking forum.
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thanx will give it ago
what do you think of watercooling
 
hi guys.
i had the day off 2day and done a lot of reading stickies and talking to mobo support and cpu support.
i have enterd the world of o/cing very fast,ive ran 3 stability tests today after doing 3 o/clocks.(heres what i done)
1=moved the 3 hard drives about so the front fan can blow air to the cpu more directly.
2=purchased a Arctic Cooling Freezer-64-LP Dual Cooling Low Profile Processor Cooler for AMD 939 and AM2 Processors and some good silver cpu compound.
3= got full refund on watercooling kit hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
4=first o/c was reduce my ram from 800 to 667.
5= the upped the cpu voltage 0.025 that put it up to 1.344 volts.
6= increesed the fsb in increments of 5 (each time i ran a temp check using speed fan and don a stability check wiyh 3dmark.
7= im now at 220fsb/1.344 cpu volts/memory at 667 speed .
which gives me a cpu spped of 2.925.1 ghz at a temp of 52c idle/54c under load
any body got anymore advice and let me know if this all sounds right to you.
give feedback please
 
new cooler arrived today Arctic Cooling Freezer-64-LP Dual Cooling Low Profile Processor Cooler for AMD 939 and AM2 Processors.
my core temp has gone up to 65c idle new cooler only been on 3 hours ne cpu paste a well is this normal
 
i wouldnt use 3dmark as a stress test, for a quick test use OCCT set it to CPU only and give it 30min blast.
your temps look a bit iffy, 52 idle and 54 underload dosnt sound right what are you using to measure the temp, a good program to use is HWmonitor this will give you most of your system temps including GFX and HD.
Im sorry i cant be more specific about what settings to use as i have never used an AMD chip or mobo chipset.
Just take it nice and slow and good luck :)

edit just noticed newer post ...your temps have gone up 10C with the new cooler??? you haven't fitted it right r have used to much therml paste...check before you continue.
 
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i wouldnt use 3dmark as a stress test, for a quick test use OCCT set it to CPU only and give it 30min blast.
your temps look a bit iffy, 52 idle and 54 underload dosnt sound right what are you using to measure the temp, a good program to use is HWmonitor this will give you most of your system temps including GFX and HD.
Im sorry i cant be more specific about what settings to use as i have never used an AMD chip or mobo chipset.
Just take it nice and slow and good luck :)

edit just noticed newer post ...your temps have gone up 10C with the new cooler??? you haven't fitted it right r have used to much therml paste...check before you continue.
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only used small amount of paste followed fitting inst to the letter
going back to my zalman flower this artic freezer 64 lp dual fan is crap
 
hi guys again just ordered the antec 900 case going to use the artic freezer 64 lp dual fan cpu cooler again ,give it 1 more shot.
i used a different type of cpu paste on tuesday and maybe a bit too much,it was the silver stuff called Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound Thermal paste 3.5gram.as anyone used this and with what results.
i have some other paste i have used all the time and had nor probs with i only use a pea size ball in the centre of the cpu and let the cooler block spread it out (does any body else do this).
any way new case here tommorow will strip mew rig down and rebuild in new case .
the reviews are very good on this case about cooling .
please give suggestions on any of my posts
thanx
adam
 
good evening guys
took delivery of my antec 900 case today and the new zalman 9700 flower cpu cooler (what a beast).
as you guys know ive been struggling all week with temp issue and stability well all seems to be good at the moment this case is fantastic,my idle temps were 52/54 on idle ,now with the new case an cpu cooler im running at 36c idle .
i have o/c to 3.5ghz on this cpu cooler and ran a 30 min stability test with occt and all well.
had grerat advice off gigabyte technician and yourselfs im going to let it run at this 3.5ghz for a while and see how things pan out.
oh yeah got a 6 fan spped control unit off zalman, excellent bit of kit .
please give me your views
thanx
adam
 
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That's a hell of a difference in temps .
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i know its still running at 3.53ghz and the temps are at 39c and stable ive done 3 occt cpu tests at 30 min bursts and all results show all stable.
i cant bellieve the temps either ive checked the with the zalman fan control and with hw monitor and in bios the all read the same
 
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