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Little Review of Phenom X4 920 vs Core I7 vs Q9770

its a decidely dodgey review with results all over the place. cpu score in vantage went up very very little when overclocked, and others have shown that the Cinebench score is pretty crap as Cinebench seems to be somewhere others have the P2 winning over intel and others testing similar speeds get 10.5k rather than 9.6k.

All in all it looks a rushed review just so they can say they were first.

But more importantly, when you rush a review so you can say you can be first, its normally VERY VERY close to the official NDA finishing so its another indication that reviews + launch in the next few days.

They also didn't overclock the northbridge at all which again has been shown all over to increase speeds, sometimes a bit sometimes quite a bit. a 200Mhz overclock on northy at max clock gave a superpi 1mb a half second bump, which at 17.5seconds is actually a huge bump, clocking the northy is giving good latency drops it would seem.

Even with, what seems like high variance and not the best results, it looks good and overclocks very very nicely.

Its easily, for me and most the easy choice over an expensive ddr3 i7 setup. Against Lynnfield it will be much closer on price due to cheaper boards, though not memory and we'll have to see how Intels midrange overclocks in comparison.
 
but it is showing that it at least is holding its own..... the 1st phenom was not very good in gaming and got shown the door by core2duo and core2quad.
 
w311zy said:
but it is showing that it at least is holding its own..... the 1st phenom was not very good in gaming and got shown the door by core2duo and core2quad.
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Because the first spin of Phenom was slow. The 9850 changed all of that.

Wait until a consistent view of the chip comes out, i.e. after NDA.
 
I've been watching PII news carefully and I agree with everything Drunkenmaster says :)

It's a dodgy review, but regardless Phenom II just screams bang for buck.
 
Nice little pre teaster regardless and its still looking good if it can match a £450-700 class cpu regardless :)

Would have been better if it beat the Core i7 940 still but the Phenom II 940 competes with it nicely regardless.
 
Very interesting and looking forward to more in depth/thorough reviews.

Looks on first glance that I won't need to bin my 9950 :)
 
Final8y said:
So no Oc on the NB & slack timings on the ram. :rolleyes:
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to be fair simply, most people haven't played with a Phenom, its not like it takes a whole other level of inteligence to clock but theres a lot more settings than either whacking the multi up or the fsb up a bit. Northbridge scaling is THE reason the phenom's up to now are so damn good above 3Ghz(if you can get the northy pretty high speed).

The original phenom was fine for gaming frankly, almost any decent chip will do for 99% of games, the only slight thing was slight lack of stock Ghz and again the lack of overclocking tips on forums and lack of people with them meant people didn't overclock that well. I had a launch day 9600BE that would do 3Ghz on air, it took a LOT of effort getting it there and stable though. Also people all assume what they do is mission critical and uber important and so used the slowing down bios fix when infact almost no one would ever remotely come close to needing to enable it, with out the "fix" it performed fine.

This is however a lot more competitive in other area's that are dependant on cpu, which games frankly aren't.


Not sure why you'd expect the 940 to beat the intel 940 either, similar price but much cheaper as a system and its onpar. It might be a simply slightly more experience with the on die mem controller, or something but the intel gaming fps were mostly behind, only by literally not remotely see/feelable numbers, but its there. I wouldn't buy either system specifically for gaming as neither will be better, overall I see price performance going with Deneb for now, Lynnfield maybe in the future. Though I still see that a AM3 chip in an amd2+ board with ddr2, then in a year when ddr3 prices are hugely cheaper upgrading being the cheapest/smartest upgrade path.
 
Odd comparison I thought, though I guess this is to be expected with early/leaked benchmarks.

Their choice of motherboard was very odd, and most certainly wouldn't be a board we would expect someone to test the Phenom II on. I could be that other motherboards have bios issues which prevented them from being used.
 
i myself am going to sell my Q6600 on P5Q-E and get a Phenom X4 920 or upgrade to a Q9550..... Hmmm decisions decisions....
 
w311zy said:
i myself am going to sell my Q6600 on P5Q-E and get a Phenom X4 920 or upgrade to a Q9550..... Hmmm decisions decisions....
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Difficult choice, I would be very tempted to just go for the Q9550 as it would be a lot cheaper but at the same time we do need to see a lot more benchmarks of the Phenom II 940, as it could turn out to be a very strong gaming CPU.

Atleast its not long till the NDA is lifted. :D
 
Gazb said:
Difficult choice, I would be very tempted to just go for the Q9550 as it would be a lot cheaper but at the same time we do need to see a lot more benchmarks of the Phenom II 940, as it could turn out to be a very strong gaming CPU.

Atleast its not long till the NDA is lifted. :D
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yeah its looking to be a very good gaming cpu, and as i game more than anything it looks as tho its gonna be the way to go.
 
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