Thorney Motorsport : Astra VXR-R

GravyMonster · 19 Dec 2008 at 16:07

rypt said:
Um, I can get a virtually brand new WRX STi (1000 miles on clock) for <£26k, why would I want this?

Becuase the new hatchback Scoob is sheise.

If you'd said however, I can buy an 18 month old RB320 and still pocket £4k, why would I want this? It may be more valid.

rypt · 19 Dec 2008 at 16:38

Spunkey said:
Becuase the new hatchback Scoob is sheise.

If you'd said however, I can buy an 18 month old RB320 and still pocket £4k, why would I want this? It may be more valid.

Yes, I agree, I much prefer the GD scoobies (so much so that I'm thinking of getting one in the new year), but to be fair I was trying to compare a NEW car rather than a 18 month of car.

GravyMonster · 19 Dec 2008 at 17:04

rypt said:
Yes, I agree, I much prefer the GD scoobies (so much so that I'm thinking of getting one in the new year), but to be fair I was trying to compare a NEW car rather than a 18 month of car.

I know, but IMO buying a new car is pointless, as my post highlights - but that's another thread entirely

MrMoonX · 19 Dec 2008 at 17:13

its an astra, thats the major problem with it, plus its ugly and they stole the green from the RS which is by no means perfect itself

Housey · 19 Dec 2008 at 17:14

I understand Ford stole the Green from a paint shop...

MrMoonX · 19 Dec 2008 at 17:18

Housey said:
I understand Ford stole the Green from a paint shop...

yeah they did but it is hideous and the astra is dog ugly, the RS is ugly as well, its a focus with bonnet vents its gash, and I drive an ST which isnt the prettiest of cars

Minxy · 19 Dec 2008 at 17:38

It's still a second hand car for stupid money.

Ed · 19 Dec 2008 at 19:31

Oooh, you guys are sooo thrifty with your "value for money" and your "it's an Astra". Does anyone know how this car goes, stops and corners, from a "machinery" perspective or is "astra" and "£26k" too much to digest?

agw_01 · 19 Dec 2008 at 23:12

4.9 seconds... yeah ok, good luck with that one

Lopéz · 19 Dec 2008 at 23:22

I like the green rim on the wheels. I take it the green and red graphics are harking back to the Castrol DTV era?

rypt · 20 Dec 2008 at 01:33

Ed said:
Oooh, you guys are sooo thrifty with your "value for money" and your "it's an Astra". Does anyone know how this car goes, stops and corners, from a "machinery" perspective or is "astra" and "£26k" too much to digest?

It's FF with 300bhp/300ftlb

This means two things, one it will understeer like a pig, two it will have torque steer.

Ed · 20 Dec 2008 at 08:50

rypt said:
one it will understeer like a pig, two it will have torque steer.

So did my old Fiat Uno Turbo and Renault 5 GT Turbo but they were still great fun.

ineed2upgrade · 20 Dec 2008 at 09:21

agw_01 said:
4.9 seconds... yeah ok, good luck with that one

was thinking the same thing.the standard astra vxr struggles to get all its power down so adding 60bhp aint going to help that much.
same with the corsa,no way that will do 5.4-60,it will still be trying to spin its tyres off the rims after 5.4 seconds.
thats the problem these days,everyone just wants more power which doesnt always make a car faster in the real world.

to add:for the people saying-its still an astra/corsa and looks ugly,the focus rs looks hideous and is on a par with the astra,its still a ford

Marf · 20 Dec 2008 at 10:58

ineed2upgrade said:
was thinking the same thing.the standard astra vxr struggles to get all its power down so adding 60bhp aint going to help that much.

No, but adding an LSD will help immensely.

Richard_16v · 20 Dec 2008 at 11:22

Take a BTCC car, are they rubbish handling and crap purely because they are FF with 300+ HP??

This company are used to tweaking cars for motorsport, chances are it will be much better handling than a standard VXR.

DreXeL · 20 Dec 2008 at 11:37

rypt said:
It's FF with 300bhp/300ftlb

This means two things, one it will understeer like a pig, two it will have torque steer.

It's not a given that a FF car with 300bhp will 'understeer like a pig' and have loads of torque steer.

A sorted FWD chassis with a good LSD is more than capable of putting 300bhp down without massive understeer and torque steer. Infact a good LSD has the opposite effect, it helps pull the front end in under power.

The amount of clueless comments on this forum when it comes to FWD cars never cease to amaze me.

Fr0dders · 20 Dec 2008 at 11:59

Richard_16v said:
Take a BTCC car, are they rubbish handling and crap purely because they are FF with 300+ HP??

This company are used to tweaking cars for motorsport, chances are it will be much better handling than a standard VXR.

as much as i dislike the way thorney conduct their business on the VXR forums ( constant bad mouthing of their competition which none of the other big three seem to do)

They did win the dunlop sport maxx trophy with an Corsa VXR-R to almost exactly this specification. The astra VXR didnt win due to some technical problems, but dominated for most of the season

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/...xx_Round_13_-_Rockingham_28th_Sept_2008.shtml

for a car that will "understeer" like a pig, It seems to have raced remarkably well. make no mistake, the thorney astra is not a factory astra with some random bits stuck on.

[TW]Fox · 20 Dec 2008 at 12:03

Actually it is a factory Astra with bits stuck on, unless they are now custom building their own bodyshells, chassis and interior?

rypt · 20 Dec 2008 at 13:43

Richard_16v said:
Take a BTCC car, are they rubbish handling and crap purely because they are FF with 300+ HP??

BTCC cars use S2000 regs, and are not able to hit 300bhp.

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