Bailiffs permitted to use physical force against homeowners

iBot said:
Its more likely they call round like reasonable people. State there purpose and then take assets.
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You've clearly not had them coming round trying demanding debts for previous tenants?
Debt collectors are absolute filthy scum, all of them. Generalisation? Yes. Truth, most definately. I fail to believe that any of them are "reasonable people".

Proof of ownership is your ( or your housemate's ) responsibility not the bailiff's, so if your mate hasn't got the receipt (to prove it is his and not yours) for his 42" screen, it will be taken.
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This is a ****** joke as well, what about for people who're long gone? How do you prove the stuff isn't theirs? I tend not to keep the receipts of things past a year, the knowledge that they are safely locked indoors used to be good enough.
 
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Emlyn_Dewar said:
I fail to believe that any of them are "reasonable people".
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well i suppose they are just doing their job...

its not like they dreamed of being a debt collecter as a kid?

Emlyn_Dewar said:
This is a ****** joke as well, what about for people who're long gone? How do you prove the stuff isn't theirs? I tend not to keep the receipts of things past a year, the knowledge that they are safely locked indoors used to be good enough.
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and in that case you give them a good face punching. personally i dont really hate or dislike anyone, but i will still attack the **** out of them
 
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iBot said:
I agree.

I also doubt they go round booting in doors.

Its more likely they call round like reasonable people. State there purpose and then take assets.

Its only when you slam the door in there face do they kick it in.

I saw it on a council estate once.
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I suggest going outside once in a while, or just coming out of your bubble. Bailiffs are not reasonable people in the slightest, they will do whatever they can to get into a house, and will employ every trick in the trade to do so. And I wouldn't put it past some of them to force their way in if a child opens the door.

We had to make umpteen calls to companies when we moved into our 4th year student house. Unpaid bills from the previous tennants, and most companies just hung up or wouldn't soeak to us then demanded that we find out where these people that owed the money were. Eventually we found out from the LL where one of the ex-tennants lived, as in over the road. Managed to get this through to the 2 companies then they finally left us alone.



This could be very very bad indeed.
 
Just more proof that the system is flawed, why should it be up to the innocent party to find out where the ***** who got into debt are? This should be the responsibilty of the people who the debt is owed to.
If we do see people with powers to legally break into homes lets hope it fails miserably and we have plenty of dead debt collectors.
 
I've had threatening Bailiff letters about a parking fine (parked in my own gym that I'm a member of legally) and they threatened to take goods etc. It's not nice at all and that was just the threats. Imagine if a Bailiff came round whilst I was at work and forced entry after my g/f and kids answered the door. That's what we have to live with. The problem is that mix ups occur for even small fines/owed debts and they don't care and just want the money. Yet less protection for the public.
 
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We had to make umpteen calls to companies when we moved into our 4th year student house. Unpaid bills from the previous tennants, and most companies just hung up or wouldn't speak to us then demanded that we find out where these people that owed the money were. Eventually we found out from the LL where one of the ex-tennants lived, as in over the road. Managed to get this through to the 2 companies then they finally left us alone.
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I hate debt collectors that do this sort of thing. It's not your responsibility to do their job for them. I'd have given them proof they no longer lived there (tenancy agreement or something) and then sued them for harassment if they continued. And I'm totally serious about that.
 
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Unpaid bills from the previous tennants, and most companies just hung up or wouldn't soeak to us then demanded that we find out where these people that owed the money were.
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I've had this on more than one occaision, a company/debt collector telling me it's my responsibility to tell them where the new tenant lives, I pointed out that if they'd not chosen to leave a forwarding address then there was no way I could find out without someone breaching data protection so they could frankly get stuffed. I dont think they are too bad as I've never come to real problems (all through previous tenants debt), but they do employ real bully tactics and they will keep pestering you even if they know the debtor doesnt live there any more.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I hate debt collectors that do this sort of thing. It's not your responsibility to do their job for them. I'd have given them proof they no longer lived there (tenancy agreement or something) and then sued them for harassment if they continued. And I'm totally serious about that.
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It never got bad, as in bailiffs coming over, but the constant letters showed us they were not going to go away. I could have done the correct thing and not opened the letters that wern't addressed to me, but eventually bailiffs would have turned up.

Absolute scum, and if a dodgy bailiff did kick up a fuss or come into my house, I can tell you for certain that he would get injured by me, and I know that I would be prosecuted. It's one of those things that I know would happen and I will never be forced to hide in a corner in my home whilst someone breeks in and starts listing the things that they are going to steal.

^ Extreme case, but I bet it has happened a number of times.
 
As a side note:

Most bailiffs who anticipate resistance will ask the police to accompany them, so if you assault the bailiffs, you will be arrested there and then.
 
singist said:
As a side note:

Most bailiffs who anticipate resistance will ask the police to accompany them, so if you assault the bailiffs, you will be arrested there and then.
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That's only if the police accompanier can survive my keyboard warrior assault. Unlikely. :p
 
singist said:
As a side note:

Most bailiffs who anticipate resistance will ask the police to accompany them, so if you assault the bailiffs, you will be arrested there and then.
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Not to mention that the level of force a baliff can use legitimately is raised when the homeowner fights back (Keyboard or not)
 
singist said:
. If they are recovering a credit card debt or a bank loan or any other civil debt, they may NOT (as yet) break in but if you give them access (leave a door or window open) they can legally use that access and once access has been established they can come back anytime.
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Would just leaving a window open be construed as giving access?
 
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