Obama is a fraud!

I read it and don't really know what to think. The pictures I saw as I read along made me think it was... erm.. silly.

Missed out on a few quality scenes in Con Air for that.

I'm certainly NOT going to flame the OP for posting it. Was an entertaining read (will perhaps look at Icke's website some more).
 
Has anyone mentioned the Illuminati yet? probably been done. I got halfway through the post before ZZzzzzzzzzz
 
TriedandTested said:
We aren't just talking about your 'typical' politician here. This is the person who will be leading, arguably, the most powerful nation on the planet. It's not even remotely comparable to your local MP. The power this position (not person) holds is incredible.

With that power you WILL always have a driving force behind it - no one man can be solely responsible, it just wouldn't happen. Those people behind it will inevitably be those with MONEY and those in powerful positions.
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Yes, but the winners will not be backed by the same people every time. After all, there are two major parties in the USA, and they are strongly opposed to each other.

It's no secret that each party is supported by its own wannabe kingmakers, and it goes without saying that they are not a single, homogeneous group. The people who support the Republicans are not the same people who support the Democrats.
 
Evangelion said:
Yes, but the winners will not be backed by the same people every time. After all, there are two major parties in the USA, and they are strongly opposed to each other.

It's no secret that each party is supported by its own wannabe kingmakers, and it goes without saying that they are not a single, homogeneous group. The people who support the Republicans are not the same people who support the Democrats.
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The Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision have sponsered and been behind every president there's ever been in living memory. If that's not a single homogenous group(s) calling the shots I don't know what is.
 
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magick said:
The Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision have sponsered and been behind every president there's ever been in living memory. If that's not a single homogenous group(s) calling the shots I don't know what is.
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This is the way its always been, theres always a social structure in any animal species, we as humans are the top animal on this planet. Some more powerful than others, Its been like this for centuries, weve had roman emperors, pharoahs. kings and kahns its the same as any animal, theres always the dominant factor, its basically evolution at work, survival of the fittest.
 
magick said:
The Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision have sponsered and been behind every president there's ever been in living memory. If that's not a single homogenous group(s) calling the shots I don't know what is.
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This is absolute nonsense. I defy you to prove it. Go on, give us a list of every single president of the United States, and prove unequivocally that he was supported by the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision.

I'm a generous man, so I'll let you have a week to do this. Better start Googling!

Oh, and here's a tip: the Trilateral Commision was created in 1973, the Council on Foreign Relations was created in 1921, and the Bilderburg Group was created in 1954. But you claim that they "have sponsered [sic] and been behind every president there's ever been in living memory"?

AHAHAHAH, AHAHAHAAHAHHA, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! :D
 
At the end of the day, Obama will be judged by his actions - not by the 'hope' that morons all over the world seem to feel that he embodies. Hope follows these actions, it does not precede them.

Concrete major U.S. foreign policy changes, and transparent war crimes tribunals for the illegal invasion of Iraq would be a start. I am guessing this will never happen because they have procured Iraqi oil supplies for the next few decades and now that the Republicans have their hands so dirty, and the PNAC is fully underway, and the main protagonists in the GOP have moved on to safe and cushy jobs - a new Democrat government is just what the U.S. needs to look like its progressive and 'freedom-loving' again.

What boggles the mind is that people are still willing to give the U.S. the benefit of the doubt after all the $hit its pulled over the last 8 years. I think people need a kick in the ass to be reminded how much the U.S. acts in its own self interests all the time, normally to the detriment of the rest of the world.
 
Evangelion said:
This is absolute nonsense. I defy you to prove it. Go on, give us a list of every single president of the United States, and prove unequivocally that he was supported by the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision.
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BILDERBERG EXPOSED

World Shadow Government Uncovered by AFP Again

By James P. Tucker Jr.

What kind of a world does the elite plan for you? Since 1954, the Bilderberg group, with the collaboration of the mainstream media, has been meeting in secret, behind closed and heavily guarded doors, to make decisions affecting virtually everyone on Earth.

This year, Bilderberg was exposed at a posh resort in a tiny village 40 miles from Munich. Bilderberg has roughly 120 participants, including international financiers, heads of state and other high officials from Europe and North America. U.S. luminaries include David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger.

All recent presidents, except the current George W. Bush, have been linked, either directly or by involvement with Bilderberg�s brother group, the Trilateral Commission. The two groups have interlocking leadership and a common agenda. Here are some past presidents who have been connected:

Jerry Ford, Bilderberg; Jimmy Carter, Trilateral; Ronald Reagan, a critic of the Trilateralists until entering the White House, where he held a reception for them; Bush the Elder, Trilateral; and Bill Clinton, Bilderberg.

The White House and the departments of state, defense and treasury are always represented at Bilderberg, along with other high officials. They lie and say they are attending no such meeting. The ritzy resort that Bilderberg takes over, banishing all other guests, also lies and says no such meeting is taking place.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg_exposed.html
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It took me 3 seconds to find that article using Google.

And here's a picture of Nixon and Reagon (before he was president) attending a bilderburg meeting at bohemion grove. Incidently when this picture was taken Reagan hadn't even started in politics yet and was still an actor.

http://truthalliance.net/Portals/0/Archive/Community Article Images/nixon reagen at grove.jpg
 
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I'm going to start my own conspiracy: Reagan and Nixon look photoshopped. And isn't Reagan too old for the apparent age of Nixon?


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magick said:
It took me 3 seconds to find that article using Google.
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Then you should have spent more time, and found one which proved your case.

Remember, you claimed:

Magick said:
The Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision have sponsered and been behind every president there's ever been in living memory. If that's not a single homogenous group(s) calling the shots I don't know what is.
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You listed three groups: The Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgs and the Trilateral Commision.

You said "every president there's ever been in living memory".

You said "BEHIND every president there's ever been in living memory". Not "vaguely associated with", or "indirectly linked to", or "known by", etc. You claimed that these three groups were directly responsible for placing these presidents in power.

ALL THREE GROUPS BEHIND THE ELECTION OF ALL PRESIDENTS WITHIN LIVING MEMORY. THAT WAS YOUR CLAIM.

Now you think you can fob me off with some brainless conspiracy shtick by some mindless idiot who claims that the Bildeburg Group is connected to a small number of presidents in various nebulous, remote, vague, and otherwise conveniently unprovable ways.

AHAHAHAH, AHAHAHAAHAHHA, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!

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