Who claims PC gaming is dying ? LOL

I think Epic have played a fair bit in this "PC GAMING IS DYING!!!11" crap on these forums.

Just because the PC version of Gears of War (overrated as **** series) sold **** and UT3 also sold bad they jumped on the piracy bandwagon, if they made good games like Valve then they would be experiencing great sales.

Valve's Doug Lombari revealed to Tom's Hardware that 1.5 million copies of The Orange Box were sold for consoles, and significantly more were sold for the PC:

Rob Wright: You released The Orange Box for both the PC and the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 consoles. Were you happy with the business the console versions did, and how did it compare to the game's PC sales?

Doug Lombari: We were very happy with both the Xbox 360 and PS3 sales. I think the Xbox 360 version did just over a million, while the PS3 [released later in December] version did a few hundred thousand copies. So I think when all is said and done, The Orange Box will have sold about 1.5 million copies on the console, which is great. But the game's PC sales were much stronger.

Rob Wright: How much stronger, exactly?

Doug Lombari: I'd say significantly stronger, at least a two-digit percentage increase over the console sales. And that includes Steam sales, retail sales, and now individual sales of Portal, Team Fortress 2, and Half-Life 2: Episode 2. So wh

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/3...illion-Console-Sales-Significantly-More-On-PC

While I enjoy playing my consoles they will never produce very competitive games in comparison to the PC, why? AUTOAIM. Call of Duty games in particular have ridiculous autoaim on consoles.

The last competitive game I played on the Xbox was Ghost Recon 1 & Island Thunder, it didn't have autoaim and believe me, you could NOT spray and pray at all, it was hard to spot enemies and using binoculars to scout before meeting a target was mandatory on most the maps, sadly everything has been dumbed down since then and the newer GR games (Advanced Rubbishfighter) have been made much easier.
 
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This, my xbox 360 is unused and dusty.

Mine is broken and dusty :(

(Note, it broke before getting dusty)


I love Pc gaming, and it will stay my primary games platform, if it wasn't I wouldn't have just spent £800 on a rebuild.

I enjoy console gaming for the social side of it, having a laugh with friends in an evening.
 
Okay so we have left4dead but what else ? am very disappointed with pc gaming at the moment.

Where is battlefield 3 or something else amazing ? Am so bored am not going to upgrade anything until battlefield 3 arrives.

Am buying a 360 as it has more fun games to play such as fifa09 fight night round 4 dc vs mk and so on.

For the price of a gpu upgrade you can get a 360 and that's not to be sniffed at.
 
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Fun games such as Fifa09 :confused:? Rest are all fighting games which simply don't come to pc...

Oh well guess your idea of fun is different to mine :D.


I'd like a 360 too for some games but I simply hate the controller, it's way too big, the ps3's controller is much more comfy for me but ps3 is too expensive and has too little games :(. Also knowing me I'd kick it around in a few days after I get it for not having graphics options and poor graphics compared to pc (don't have a hd rdy tv) :D.


Anyways I'm enjoying the last 3 gta's, Trials 2, Civ4, supcom, Far Cry2, Devil May Cry 4, UT3, HL2ep2, TF2 and L4d atm :p.
 
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Okay so we have left4dead but what else ? am very disappointed with pc gaming at the moment.

Where is battlefield 3 or something else amazing ? Am so bored am not going to upgrade anything until battlefield 3 arrives.

Am buying a 360 as it has more fun games to play such as fifa09 fight night round 4 dc vs mk and so on.

For the price of a gpu upgrade you can get a 360 and that's not to be sniffed at.

There is the rather large back catalogue of PC games...heck, I'm still playing X-Wing (1993) and Commander Keen (1991) ;)
 
Okay so we have left4dead but what else ? am very disappointed with pc gaming at the moment.

Where is battlefield 3 or something else amazing ? Am so bored am not going to upgrade anything until battlefield 3 arrives.

Am buying a 360 as it has more fun games to play such as fifa09 fight night round 4 dc vs mk and so on.

For the price of a gpu upgrade you can get a 360 and that's not to be sniffed at.

You are having a laugh? Gaming on the pc hasn't been this good for a while imo, there is some excellent games out on the pc at the moment.

Here's a few you may want to try,

Mass Effect,
GTA IV,
Call of Duty: world at War,
Far Cry 2,
Fifa 09 (yes it's out on the pc too;)),
PES 09 (far better than fifa),
Football Manager 09,
Fallout 3,
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3,
Tomb Raider Underworld,
Pure,
Dead space,
World of Goo,
Lego Batman,
Crysis Warhead

and these are just the recent one's I can remember off the top of my head.
 
You are having a laugh? Gaming on the pc hasn't been this good for a while imo, there is some excellent games out on the pc at the moment.

Here's a few you may want to try,

Mass Effect,
GTA IV,
Call of Duty: world at War,
Far Cry 2,
Fifa 09 (yes it's out on the pc too;)),
PES 09 (far better than fifa),
Football Manager 09,
Fallout 3,
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3,
Tomb Raider Underworld,
Pure,
Dead space,
World of Goo,
Lego Batman,
Crysis Warhead

and these are just the recent one's I can remember off the top of my head.

I've played several of those, some good some bad, will get round to playing Warhead, and look into playing lego batman :D

I recently played on a PS3 and have to say i did enjoy it and played it longer in one night than i have with any PC game recently, with recent pc games i find that i play it for anything longer than 2 hours im bored.

Little Big Planet was really fun, its nice and simple to play. Tho, when i went multiplayer to play a certain level i discovered those 'idiot console player' who have been refered to in this thread who just didnt seem to know what they're doing and runs around either getting killed or killing you, and me just picking up the game from several minutes ago could complete the damn level without them.

Another game i tried was NFS:Undercover, was also fun but it jerked a lot? :| i'd have expected the game to run absolutely smooth on the PS3 since it was released...
 
PC Gaming is at least a generation ahead of 360/PS3:D

It's not, though. I love pc gaming, but equally love playing on consoles. Two very different beasts with different pros and cons.

My biggest gripe with PC gaming is the complete lack of decent exclusives (ok, there's WoW, but i've been down that path and barely escaped with my soul!). Everything else appears on the 360/ps3. We can argue that a settings make all the difference, but tbh they really don't after the intial 10 mins. Then there's mouse vs. joypad, which is a highly subjective and rocky path (usually with people who can't use a pad to save their life on one side, and peolple without a high end pc on the other).

If you look back 5-15 years you can see how many great pc exclusives there used to be. rpgs, rts, fps that inolved more than run and gun. Where are they today? The sad truth is pc games have become more and more like console games in recent times. On the flip side, and equally as sad, console games are becoming more and more like pc games, bugs an all. As much as I enjoy the convenience of the crossover (never before has it been as easy to get away with a single platform) I miss the days when my pc was for Planescape/Baldur's Gate, clan gaming, rts, and my consoles were for Final Fight, Mario Kart and Street Fighter. Now we get a kind of grey common dominator that doesn't match the quality or uniqueness of either.
 
Now that a lot of games are configured for use with the 360 pad i will get them on PC. For instance i got Dead Space on PC brand new for £15 and it works perfectly on my PC. It would have been double the price for the PS3. I can also use both with my 32" TV. I had it up and running and was playing the game just as fast as i would have been if i'd bought it on console and am even using a wireless 360 pad.

Although PC gaming does seem to be picking up a bit every gaming shop i go in has massive isles for the consoles then a tiny shelf in the far corner for the PC titles. I suppose a lot of PC gamers get their games online though.
 
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The real problem behind this is that console players are morons, but not mentally deficient enough to render them unable to post things on the internet.

Bit of an immature blanket statement - Plenty of console players are mature people.

What people would do well to see is some games are more playable on consoles and some work better on PC.
 
The thing about gaming on the PC is you have an extensive back-catalogue of games, well over a decades worth of games are out there for you to play.

If you prefer gameplay over graphics that is, but even then some older games like UT99 can be spruced-up with mods and the right settings to make them look great.

That catalogue will always be there, and there's no way anyone here has played everything worth playing on the PC for the last 10 years. Just because there's not many new game sales 1 year, doesn't mean PC gaming is anywhere close to dying out.
 
Well the Console lost the war in the household I live in, the PS3 got kicked out, PC is still here ;)

PC's are getting small now and a HTPC is barely much bigger than one of the bulky old Sky+ boxes, connects to TV's just like a console, you got yer XBOX 360 controllers, a propor Windows OS, all the connectivity plus more.

Why do people even argue Console Vs PC? PC is clearly the best and if people say look at the costs, you get more for your money with a PC anyway!
 
I still think the entire only thing consoles have is that they are "ready out of the box" which is something computers aren't and are prone to go very wrong.

Computers are miles better then consoles.
 
I still think the entire only thing consoles have is that they are "ready out of the box" which is something computers aren't and are prone to go very wrong.

Computers are miles better then consoles.

You can buy em ready out of the box, just it increases the cost :p
 
There is the rather large back catalogue of PC games...heck, I'm still playing X-Wing (1993)

This was the real McCoy, think I even got a kill once when I was playing it. Just the once mind. :D

I must have been awful at it because even with the stupidly expensive analogue joystick I had didn't help.
 
Mass Effect, boring xbox kotor clone think I am only person alive that found kotor boring ?

GTA IV, << crappy port to pc which requires a latest quad and a 1gb gtx280 to run it looking nice

Call of Duty: world at War,<<<<< utterly boring nade artillary spam fest just like cod4

Far Cry 2, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< very dull game and not received well by most

Fifa 09 (yes it's out on the pc too;)), <<<<< erm are you serious ? its a ps2 port with old gen graphics on pc with a beachball for a football

PES 09 (far better than fifa), <<<<<<<< broken again like 08 laggy online play and stupid animations and bad keepers

Football Manager 09, <<<<<<<<< if you like teletext you'll love it

Fallout 3, <<< yes good game

Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3, <<<<<<<<<<< utterly pants rts shallower than a puddle

Tomb Raider Underworld, <<<<<<< erm if you dig this game guess its okay

Pure, <<<<<<< gets boring after about 5 minutes

Dead space,<<<<<<<<< good game but ruined because you cant remap controls

World of Goo, <<<<<<< world of poo

Lego Batman, <<<<<<<< one for the kids

Crysis Warhead great but short
 
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You are having a laugh? Gaming on the pc hasn't been this good for a while imo, there is some excellent games out on the pc at the moment.

Here's a few you may want to try,

Mass Effect - Average
GTA IV - Good
Call of Duty: world at War - Coop is good, MP is rubbish
Far Cry 2 - Deleted it after 20 minutes of gameplay
Fifa 09 (yes it's out on the pc too;)) - Extremely rubbish compared to console version
PES 09 (far better than fifa) - Rubbish compared to console version
Football Manager 09 - This game is hardly going to save PC Gaming
Fallout 3 - Above average
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 - Rubbish
Tomb Raider Underworld - Not played
Pure - Insanely long loading times, deleted after 10 minutes of installation
Dead space - Above average
World of Goo - ...
Lego Batman - Yet to play
Crysis Warhead - Good

My personal opinion.
 
I take the point that a lot of xbox live players are generally immature, but you can't say that consoles hold the immaturity crown exclusively.

One of the biggest PC games of the last 5 years was World of Warcraft, and pound for pound there is an equal measure of morons on WoW that there is on xbox live. Pick up groups, Barrens chat, hell, even guild chat is teeming with half wits.

Need further proof? Go to the official WoW forums. It's like a beacon for every mouth breathing dolt with access to the internet who once had an idea. Anyone remember bnet? Same.


As to the debate of which platform is better (and lets face it, that's all this thread is about) they're all great.

Except the Wii.
 
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