7m in aid is nothing to a county of our size, its good know our Government is doing something to help those that are suffering out there, and it’s not their fault. Life over there is much different to ours and 7m goes a long way and can help a load of people, good on us at least we are doing something.
UK Gives Aid to Gaza
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no but maybe you should step out of the area you live in and see some people in this country could use a helping hand getting food and a roof over there head.
its not like theres no homeless people in this country the goverment just tries to move them out of sight, you cant even sleep in a shop doorway without beeing moved on
oh and guess what you cant claim benefits of any kind without an address which homeless people obviously dont have and as the guy on this forum has shown even a respected person in society cant even get a roof from the goverment what chances do smelly tramps have? less than those in gaza thats for sure.
Yeah perhaps they need to get a job or stop being junkie? Hardly the same situation that the people over there face is it
Firstly, you have no idea where i grew up. If you did, you would retract your initial statement.
There is no reason why we cant help both. If you think that by removing aid to the Palestinians all of our problems will vanish? You are mistaken.
Our govenment choose not to help our homeless people. Its not a case of one or the other.
There is no reason why we cant help both. If you think that by removing aid to the Palestinians all of our problems will vanish? You are mistaken.
Our govenment choose not to help our homeless people. Its not a case of one or the other.
Here here!
Yeah perhaps they need to get a job or stop being junkie? Hardly the same situation that the people over there face is it
with help from who? no roof = no address = you dont exist = you cant get benefits = you cant get a job = your worse off than someone in a poor country
every person living on the streets isnt a junkie criminal a lot of them are good honest people you sir need to go and buy the life of grime dvd's and have a good look at the real world
And yet how many of those people in poor countries would gladly swap places with anyone living here, roof or not.
Well maybe I am generalising too much and no doubt there are people out there who are living homeless buy the resent financial problems we are under but come on 7m is nothing it is good to know our government is helping out people in need not just in the UK but in places that need it even more so like Gaza.
You and others have this strange idea that purely because a nation is muslim, they are identical to every other muslim nation in the world, and they act as a big happy family all helping each other.
Why would you think that is the case?
And also, the palestinians, especially in Gaza cannot freely come and go as they wish. Nor can others freely come in and help.
I would advise that many of you should do some proper research on the subject before making silly comments.
Source? I call cobblers on that!
It takes a lot less than 3 planet Earths to give every human on Earth a decent lifestyle. And by "decent lifestyle" I do not mean "PS3s and BMWs for everyone".
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Where do they get money for rockets from then?
Much of there arms are supplied by allies within the region.
And also, dont bring up the point that they could spend their 'weapons money' on their people instead. The UK needlessly spends billions on defence(attack) that could easily be used for hospitals, schools, and helping homless people
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Why don't said nations provide aid instead of weapons then!
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last part yes, it will indirectly fund their war efforts, its a travesty that we're giving them money.
first part, completely wrong, Obama is INCREDIBLY pro Israel, insanely, he makes a speach yearly at what essentially boils down to a Israel lunch thing for rich people to talk about how much they love Israel, his anti Palestine comments are very harsh and very severe, he's incredibly damning of them and is very very much more pro Israel than really any president before. Bush has been the lynch pin in the recent ceasefires and was moving towards a real peace(ish) and its thought Obama coming in would hurt the process because of what he's said beforehand about Palestine.
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7million itself isn't much, except it could easily house what, 100k a house, 70 houses fully, or pay rent for probably 700 people, not to be sniffed at. THe problem is, if we buy them 7million pounds of food and medicine, thats 7million pounds less that Palestine has to spend on food and medicine, thats 7 million they will probably go and spend on building more rockets to fire into Israel completely indiscriminately. They don't fire on military targets, they fire on anyone . Israel tries to fire on military targets by and large, but when the opposition runs as a terrorist group and puts a group of 5 people in an apartment complex to fire rockets out of in the vein attempt to disaude the other guys from returning fire they are on purpose putting their own citizens in harms way.
Its not nice but Israel has to fire on those positions, if Palestine wanted to fight fair, and fired from a safer location so Israel would only kill soldiers, they could, but they don't. They WANT aid, they WANT to look like they are being bullied and butchered, its the way they fight.
Neither side is good in this but Palestine are using every dirty trick in the book here, and funding them indirectly is exactly what we are doing, its nothing short of disgusting.
Remember, they wouldn't need any aid at all, if they , lets see, simply didn't break a ceasefire and fire on civilian targets and murder, yes murder people.
When they've stopped, give them all the aid you want, but right now you're helping build rockets which are used to murder people.
To be quite honest, as with most wars we stick our noses into. Had no one supported either side, one side would have lost, thoroughly and have been over and done with 20 years ago, one side would probably have taken massive loses and the death toll would have been sadening, but that high deathtoll, in a limited space of time would probably be tiny in comparison to a few deaths daily for 20 years.
Aid prolongs wars, lets bad people keep spending on weapons when they wouldn't otherwise be able to afford it. Wars stop, when its gets so bad you can't go on, thats it, thats how they always finish, all this AID we give out worldwide stops it getting so bad they have to stop. As harsh as it sounds, in reality letting wars finish before getting involved would save lots more lives, would see less continuous fighting worldwide, would see far less money/man power wasted on war and would see AID not being wasted once its given.
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maybe when 10% of the population has the majority of the money it does
Ok I was wrong, but we do need more than one.
http://www.greendaily.com/2008/10/2...h-needed-to-meet-natural-resource-consumptio/
http://www.ur.umich.edu/0405/Feb07_05/12.shtml
http://www.livescience.com/environment/081107-new-worlds.html
http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=1685
Some are quite old but it stands to reason. Not the most credible of sources.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7696197.stm
Not so long ago, basically says we need more resources than the earth had if countries are outstripping environmental renewal
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Great, the Palestinians stop fighting and sign a wonderful ceasefire. What happens next? The Israeli's take more of their land, opress more of their people, steal more of their goods, untill what? Untill there is no longer a Palestine.
I dont think the indiscriminant bombings are a good thing, to kill civillians is wrong full stop. But i can understand why these people feel the need to do it. These people are desperate, and desperation triggers desperate actions. The heavy handed Israeli reaction is beyond discusting.
Lets break it down.
Isreal occupy Palestine.
Isreal steadily take Palestinian land.
Palestine react with violence.
Israel royaly **** up Palestine for resisting.
And people seem to see Palestine as the initial aggressors?