House prices..

But most of those predicting doom and gloom were doing it with incorrect timescales (those saying the market would continue rising three years ago for 12 months were right, those saying the market was going to crash within 12 months were wrong), and furthermore most of them completely missed the cause, expecting it to come from within the housing market due to interest rate rises...

I don't recall anyone predicting what is actually happening 3 years ago.

yes just go back have a look at who said it, it was posted and you argued against it, in fact the post was spot on, infact a percentage was quoted some that now is being pushed out by the paper etc...
 
yes iam over the moon, unobtainable for who? not me i have a large deposit very large, i saved while you all spent and sold homes to each other, i just sat in the sidelines watching the fools rack up massive debts and enjoying their time.
Now it my time to party and pick up the pieces cheap prices, while they still owe the mortgage company money.
Not my problem same as it wasnt there problem when they priced out a lot of other individuals, someone even quote me "work harder" haha so funny now.

The irony in this post is overwhelming... You're criticising people for being selfish while expressing your own selfishness.

I've got a house with a good lump of equity (even with the current drops) and a large amount of cash in the bank, do I get to play and laugh as well?
 
yes just go back have a look at who said it, it was posted and you argued against it, in fact the post was spot on, infact a percentage was quoted some that now is being pushed out by the paper etc...

So someone, three years ago, predicted the complete collapse of the mortgage market, risks of deflation, drops in interest rates to the lowest on record, and a massive government rescue of the financial market?

Can you provide a link, I don't remember that one ;)

Or are you talking about CLV101's prediction, which wasn't 3 years ago, and again completely missed the cause of the problem?
 
Yes, but do we really care who predicted what now? The market didn't drop as a result of someone on the forums predicting a downturn on a particular date just so we can say, "It's all his/her fault!". :)
 
I did see it coming, I always said that house prices would only crash with a large external shock to the market, and that it was undesirable.

House prices dropping a consequence, not a cause, of the problems, just as large parts of their rise were the result of misregulation encouraging bad banking practices because the government of the US encouraged banks to offload their risk to someone else...

The question was posed to those who wished for a house price crash thinking it would enable them to get a cheap house, ignoring the fact that it wouldn't happen in isolation, and the only reason prices would crash would be if some significant economic factor reduced demand (such as the chronic lack of mortgage availability), so those cheap houses wouldn't be any more obtainable for the vast majority.

Are implying me?

Lets face it the crash of 2008 has proven what went wrong with the bank and that it was full of money robbing conmen, we will look back and be thankful for what happened.
 
Yes, but do we really care who predicted what now? The market didn't drop as a result of someone on the forums predicting a downturn on a particular date just so we can say, "It's all his/her fault!". :)

It's not so much that, it's getting a view from those that appeared to believe a house price crash would happen in isolation and therefore be a good thing, as opposed to being the consequence of a bad thing that would outweigh any good it might do (an example is houses getting cheaper but mortgages becoming much harder to get, meaning less people actually able to obtain their own house than before despite the price drop)

Are implying me?

Lets face it the crash of 2008 has proven what went wrong with the bank and that it was full of money robbing conmen, we will look back and be thankful for what happened.

I wasn't implying anyone in particular. As for 2008, it proved that both bankers are money grabbing gits and that bad regulation is far worse than no regulation in the market.
 
The irony in this post is overwhelming... You're criticising people for being selfish while expressing your own selfishness.

I've got a house with a good lump of equity (even with the current drops) and a large amount of cash in the bank, do I get to play and laugh as well?

Exactly, I'm in a similar situation to you. The good thing though is that for the past five years I've had a home. Something I never really had when I was in rented accommodation that I didn't care a bit about. I'm also in a house now that I really love and wouldn't have been able to get had I (and more importantly my other half) not owned a house previously. It would take a hell of a drop now to put us anywhere near negative equity.

Unlike matttheman though I feel for people not in a situation as secure as my own.
 
I'm in the same position as matttheman although I feel sorry for people that are struggling

I'm going to wait it out a bit longer and see if I can get a better house for my budget
 
I'm in the same position as matttheman although I feel sorry for people that are struggling

I'm going to wait it out a bit longer and see if I can get a better house for my budget

+1 - The house I was buying (at the peak of the market) had the sale fall through. Damn that was lucky!

I've been working my nuts off and saving like mad to build up a 45K deposit for when I want to buy. All I'm doing now is biding my time and continuing to save :)
 
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17664171&highlight=crashuk
heres the link there are others, just cant be asked to find them.

That thread is predicting massive inflation... and that it would all happen in 2007... and it's only two years not three... and he was advocating huge interest rate hikes as being necessary and a good thing, when arguably our rates were higher than they should have been for a while before this crisis started, as inflation at that point was related to price inelastic commodity prices...

So not at all what was asked for then... Especially as I didn't post in that thread, so I couldn't have argued against the poster
 
It's not so much that, it's getting a view from those that appeared to believe a house price crash would happen in isolation and therefore be a good thing, as opposed to being the consequence of a bad thing that would outweigh any good it might do (an example is houses getting cheaper but mortgages becoming much harder to get, meaning less people actually able to obtain their own house than before despite the price drop)



I wasn't implying anyone in particular. As for 2008, it proved that both bankers are money grabbing gits and that bad regulation is far worse than no regulation in the market.

I would guess a crash would only help first time buyers, since providing they have a reasonable deposit which in turn would give them a mortgage offer, would ease the pain in affordability if the house they are after is now much cheaper.

For those with existing property it's still relative, e.g, the house they will be currently in will drop the same as the one they want to upgrade to.

For an economy based on debt it's no wonder we had a crash - certainly without irresponsible lending (by the banks) and insane city bonuses, we might not be in this situation, but i am no economist. :p
 
That thread is predicting massive inflation... and that it would all happen in 2007... and it's only two years not three... and he was advocating huge interest rate hikes as being necessary and a good thing, when arguably our rates were higher than they should have been for a while before this crisis started, as inflation at that point was related to price inelastic commodity prices...

So not at all what was asked for then... Especially as I didn't post in that thread, so I couldn't have argued against the poster

yes, the start of 2007 was high inflation, etc... that lead to the credit crunch, then deflation, there is a post were he does state delfation will occur but not yet, and told people to jump into the euro and sell pounds etc.. very spot on, then he was banned for unknown reason.
 
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yes, the start of 2007 was high inflation, etc... that lead to the credit crunch, then deflation, there is a post were he does state delfation will occur but not yet, very spot on, then he was banned for unknown reason.

Erm, no. Correlation does not equal causation. We didn't suffer particularly high inflation in 2007 (a peak of 3.9% isn't exactly high), nor did inflation lead to the credit crunch...

You seem to know a lot about him for such a new poster...
 
Erm, no. Correlation does not equal causation. We didn't suffer particularly high inflation in 2007 (a peak of 3.9% isn't exactly high), nor did inflation lead to the credit crunch...

You seem to know a lot about him for such a new poster...

The cpi was fixed it was much higher, more balance was put on lcd tv than food etc... cpi was fixed since 2000.
 
inflation or stagnation

inflation due to the week pound, stagnation due to credit crunch

I really can't say
 
do a search on house prices etc.. and a few names pop up.

Perhaps, but it's odd to link to a thread saying I'd argued against the OP when I hadn't even posted, and the OP was banned a long time before you joined... Especially as your arguments now appear to be repeating his...
 
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