Alfa Romeo's

They actually have someone who was in charge of production at Audi in charge of production now. And about this time last year they paused production to upgrade equipment.

The Giulia (159 replacement) should be interesting, they're dropping the 159 because the GM floor is too heavy to handle and accelerate, and too expensive to produce.
 
Do you apply the same theorey to those people who adore ancient crap like the original Mini, Triumph Dolomites, Vauxhall Chevettes, Morris Minors etc?

Character, flair and soul are what they usually use to describe their cars, much like Alfas.

Oh, Alfa suck tbh.

All those cars you've listed are awesome though!!!
 
Awesome in what way?

To me there's no difference between a Vauxhall Chevette and an Austin Princess.

They were crap back then, and they're ultra crap now.
I always had you down as a bit of a driver, but if you think there's no telling a Princess from a Chevette..... no matter where you are on the scale you should still be able to differentiate between the way cars drive. A Mk5 Escort is pretty rubbish and so is a Mk3 Astra of the same vintage, but I can still tell the difference :)

Anyway that isn't what we're talking about!

Alfa Romeo. Well, I've never had a long term relationship with one but I have had a few flings over the years :D
My first experience with Italian cars was a big old Alfa 75 that some eccentric guy I delivered papers to owned. I never got to look under the bonnet, but he regularly used to fire it up and rev it on the drive (he was too mad to drive) It barked like something out of the intro to "Grand Prix" and I was bewitched on the spot.

As I got closer to the magical driving age, there was a guy down the road who had a Fiat Strada Abarth 105TC. Now, he was a bit of an idol at the time anyway (shady history, played electric guitar, been in a rock band, hinted at past glories of wild group sex) and the car was the finishing touch. It had been parked up against his hedge for about 2 years and was seriously past it's best, bodywise. One day I convinced him to fire it up. So he did.
He fired it up , it wouldn't idle, so he took it out up the driver blipping the throttle like a 1950's F1 car. Inched out onto the road, dumped the clutch and smoked the tyres for what at the time seemed like an unbelievable distance. There were huge black lines up the road for months afterwards. The car disappeared from view, over the crest of a hill, then he turned around and came back. Over the crest at what must have been 60 odd mph on the redline (no insurance, no tax, no MOT, single track residential street with no pavements :D) whacked on the brakes, locked a front wheel and left another black line down the road.

"Got a sticky caliper but she's still pretty lively man"

This cemented my early thoughts on Italian cars. I was mortified when he refused to sell it to me.

A mate of mine has had a few Alfa Spiders, and a 146. All great fun to drive. Sharp, responsive, not the best by any means but all had a little bit of "something" about them that you can't quantify.
It's the same as anything. Do you pick the shirt off the rack that is the most neatly or acceptably styled, or the one you feel coolest in?
Do you go for the textbook model girlfriend or the one you fancy the most?
Do you buy the most suitable house for your needs, or the one that FEELS right when you walk in the front door?
We humans are fickle and emotional things and sometimes it's deeply unsatisfying to just rely on pure statistics and technical excellence when making choices like this.
That's one reason I bought the Manta. The guy nextdoor had one when I was a kid and every time he got in it you'd think he'd just done a bank job. At 9 years old I thought "I gotta have me some of this"
Stuff like that stays with some of us :D
 
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Awesome stories, you're an old romantic. :D

I however have an empty heart and see things clinically, so the Chevette remains a heap & if Alfa's didn't exist then 99.99% of the world wouldn't miss them. :p

& ok the Chev whooped the Princess inside out from a driving pov & much as it pains me to say the Dolomite was a weapon.
 
Open your heart and let in the romance of nostalgia merlin, that Passatt experience has scarred you ;)
 
IIt's the same as anything. Do you pick the shirt off the rack that is the most neatly or acceptably styled, or the one you feel coolest in?
Do you go for the textbook model girlfriend or the one you fancy the most?
Do you buy the most suitable house for your needs, or the one that FEELS right when you walk in the front door?
We humans are fickle and emotional things and sometimes it's deeply unsatisfying to just rely on pure statistics and technical excellence when making choices like this.

Nail Hit Head.

I have what I think is a great car, but I could happily live with my mates 205 GTI for an eternity over my car, I love crap like the gen 2 Celica, or the poxy 280ZX,hell I even have a soft spot for the Beetle, or even worse, the old Datsun Bluebird SSS.

As an Engineer I can appreciate German cars greatly, but thats where it ends, its the flaws that make something interesting, same as us humans.Alfa's have always had nicer styling than anything else on the market imo.Compare a 159 to the 3 or 5 series, only one winner in terms of pure looks.

That said, I'd never buy a new Alfa:p
 
Well I fell onto Alfa ownership in 2006. At the end of 2006 I was looking for a replacement to my 1.8T Passat which was costing a fair whack in petrol on my 100mile commute.

I had a budget of £5k and was looking at A4's, Mondeos, Passats and both the Rover 75 and ZT - all diesel versions.

My uncle was in the mood for a new car and knew my budget. He very generously offered my an Alfa Red GT 9 months old for £5k, I couldn't refuse.

Since having the car I love it more and more. The way it looks is fantastic and honestly draws comments from complete strangers on most days!

I considered chopping it in last year for an E60 but considering the mileage I do, the deal I got and the cost to change I decided to stick with it.

The car has been very reliable although has had a bit of warranty work that I guess most cars do.

Anyway some pics for those who get it to drool over!

alfa2.jpg


alfa3.jpg


alfa4.jpg


alfa5.jpg


gtint2.jpg


gtint3.jpg
 
Awesome stories, you're an old romantic. :D

I however have an empty heart and see things clinically, so the Chevette remains a heap & if Alfa's didn't exist then 99.99% of the world wouldn't miss them. :p

& ok the Chev whooped the Princess inside out from a driving pov & much as it pains me to say the Dolomite was a weapon.

Dolly sprint was awesome, white with a green stripe sat on our drive for many a year, never went anywhere mind, it was ****ed.
 
Well I fell onto Alfa ownership in 2006. At the end of 2006 I was looking for a replacement to my 1.8T Passat which was costing a fair whack in petrol on my 100mile commute.

I had a budget of £5k and was looking at A4's, Mondeos, Passats and both the Rover 75 and ZT - all diesel versions.

My uncle was in the mood for a new car and knew my budget. He very generously offered my an Alfa Red GT 9 months old for £5k, I couldn't refuse.

Since having the car I love it more and more. The way it looks is fantastic and honestly draws comments from complete strangers on most days!

I considered chopping it in last year for an E60 but considering the mileage I do, the deal I got and the cost to change I decided to stick with it.

The car has been very reliable although has had a bit of warranty work that I guess most cars do.

Anyway some pics for those who get it to drool over!

Veyron?
 
S*** me I very nearly just clicked Alfa Romeo at Pistonheads Classified.

Phew, close call, moment of sillyness has passed!
 
Well I fell onto Alfa ownership in 2006. At the end of 2006 I was looking for a replacement to my 1.8T Passat which was costing a fair whack in petrol on my 100mile commute.

I had a budget of £5k and was looking at A4's, Mondeos, Passats and both the Rover 75 and ZT - all diesel versions.

My uncle was in the mood for a new car and knew my budget. He very generously offered my an Alfa Red GT 9 months old for £5k, I couldn't refuse.

Since having the car I love it more and more. The way it looks is fantastic and honestly draws comments from complete strangers on most days!

I considered chopping it in last year for an E60 but considering the mileage I do, the deal I got and the cost to change I decided to stick with it.

The car has been very reliable although has had a bit of warranty work that I guess most cars do.

Anyway some pics for those who get it to drool over!

http://www.mission74.com/images/ocuk/alfa2.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://www.mission74.com/images/ocuk/alfa3.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://www.mission74.com/images/ocuk/alfa4.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://www.mission74.com/images/ocuk/alfa5.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://the-pier.co.uk/ocuk/gtint2.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://the-pier.co.uk/ocuk/gtint3.jpg[/IMG[/QUOTE]You paid £5k for a 9 month old Alfa GT!? :eek:

Do you think you could introduce me to your uncle? :p
 
Edit: This forum is the ONLY place I get hassle from people about it, EVERYWHERE else, I get people talking to me about how their old 33 was one of their favorite cars or something.

thats because OcUK is just about the only forum outside of pistonheads where everybody speaks their mind, without 2nd thought

most other forums are just one big ego massage and never slate other peoples cars. And if you do you get banned.
 
thats because OcUK is just about the only forum outside of pistonheads where everybody speaks their mind, without 2nd thought

most other forums are just one big ego massage and never slate other peoples cars. And if you do you get banned.

Semi true, It does seem that many on here want to force their opinion on folks, sometimes in an agressive even insulting manner.But yeah,its better than some ass kissing owners club forums out there.
 
Hmmmm

Well I had a couple of 156's and I thought they were OK. The 2L Twin Spark was the best, cracking little engine and without question the only stright 4 I have heard that sounds nice. Lovely to look at and not to bad to drive, though the V6 was corrupted. No 3 series but I had them because I didn't want a non 6 BMW and wanted to be different. Ended up handing them down to others but I thought they were OK.

Crap seats, crap quality plastics, crap panel fit
Great steering wheels, nice sound, looked good back when they were fresh

I can see the appeal but I think that appeal to me has been mainly asthetic.
 
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