if it was your kid, you would have probably reacted in the same way. or do you not have any?
Autistic teenager kicked baby in the face
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if it was your kid, you would have probably reacted in the same way. or do you not have any?
I just wish what you said would be taken on board knip, but I'm afraid I fear you're talking to far too ignorant a crowd
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Honestly, this angers me.
I have a cousin who's autistic and hes a great guy. I know about autism. Does this mean that it's alright for autistic people to go around kicking babies and nothing happening?
If you saw someone stamping on your baby how would you know instantly know he was autistic anyway?
But it's not nothing happening...
One persons autism can be massively different from anothers.
Its not like cancer where cancer is just cancer, autism covers a massive range of symptoms and issues. I myself know someone who functions pretty well in "normal society" I also know someone who has to have 2 full time carers because he is in danger of hurting himself at anytime.
Just because your cousin is "a great guy" doesnt mean everyone else in the world with autism is exactly the same as him.
The same as the child I look after with cerebral palsy, what they can and cant do ranges massively from child to child.
Would hate that to happen to my baby... don't really know what you could do in that situation
the name of that video made me actually burst out laughing... brb hell
the name of that video made me actually burst out laughing... brb hell
As with many disorders as i'm sure you know the degree to which it can affect an individual can vary wildly. Autism is probably one of the most varied disorders, some people living completely normal lives just with strange quirks and others being completely handicapped by it.
I would assume that the authorities put sufficient research into this lad in order to deem him not responsible for his actions, but if this is the case than those that were responsible do need to be dealt with. Sadly people like this boy do exist and there's nothing that can be done about it other than to make sure they don't hurt themselves and others, unfortunately his carers seemed to fail at this.
I don't have kids, but in the heat of the moment I probably would have hit him. This does not mean that I think the state should do that too! The justice system is about justice, not revenge or retribution. There's a big difference between what someone personally involved in the case thinks should happen and what is fair and just.
There's a lot of common sense in this thread, props GD
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Tauren has not said what he would like to happen to the teenager/family?
Fair enough, I'm looking at it from the point of view of no action being taken whatsoever. If they are talking to the kids parents / whatever then its a different matter.
The article has been worded to make it seem that way which is typical I suppose.
Theres not enough information to make a judgement here so I'll leave it at that.
The article has been worded to make it seem that way which is typical I suppose.
Theres not enough information to make a judgement here so I'll leave it at that.
Aye fair point, i've gotten into the habit of just assuming that these sorts of articles have left out important parts for a bit of extra drama.
im not sure now. i guess because ive only just had a child of my own (she's 3 months old now) my emotions got in the way of my rational thinking. i think the carers of the teenager do need to keep a closer eye on him though to make sure this doesn't happen again.
creaseys is of course a family coffee shop, if the teenager was sensentive to loud noise/baby's crying god knows why the carers took him to the coffee shop, all the young mothers and fathers go there with their children
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Bloody hell that's rare
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If he is autistic he may well have found the childs crying physically painful for himself (not that it justifies it) some autistics suffer from hyperacusis which makes certain pitches of noise (usually at the higher end of the scale) painful, and so he wanted to make it stop hurting.
I dont people should be making comments on this if they dont fully understand what someone with autism is like. Not that it makes it ok, and I would be upset if my child had a broken nose but maybe be in a better grasp of conditions before posting your outrage is all.
Agreed, Its easy to have a knee jerk reaction but I would feel more comfortable if a risk assessment were carried out regarding this guys suitability to be out in public.
BTW Glad you got your sig back Knip
It would take a lot for any father not to attack an 18 year old that just kicked his child in the head, I would probably go mental. He could have killed the child, babies have very soft skulls and any shock or blow to the head can be lethal.
You;d break a mentally ill persons nose?
And you think that would do some good?
1: How would you know he's autistic when looking at him right after he's just kicked your baby in the face.
2: If I had a child and someone attacked him/her, I would probably hit and restrain the person who did it, not neccesarily in the face square on in the nose, just to overwhelm them if possible.
3: Along that line of thought, if someone was mentally illl and attacked me, or you, assuming you knew this after being attacked, is your first instinct really, "Gee, I've just been attacked and let me find out if he's mentally ill, if he is, I'll just stand here". Doubt it, I'm sure you'd run or defend yourself.
We don't know what happened right after, the father probably jumped on him.
Yeah, he didn't like the sound so rather than move away, get out he decided to harm the source of the sound. That's great. I know if I don't like something bad I don't get violent.
If autism causes this person to be violent and life threatining, then they should be monitored 24/7 and not let out alone.
There are so many people locked up for being messed up in the head and all it'll take for them to be there is a murder. He came soooooo close.
It's also interesting to find out that at now 18, he's sensitive to these things and if someone was with him, as there was maybe? Didn't realise this.
I've asked a work colleague to scan the news article for me for more info.
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Well because before he edited it, it seemed as though he was stating it as purely punitive measure. ie after the trial he;d punch the guy in the face not at the time of the attack.
Self defence is ever so slightly different that "an eye for an eye" don;t you think :/
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I fail to see your outrage.
Thats a whole other kettle of fish, one which drives me mad as well. I constantly see disabled people and their "carers" out on jollies which are of no benefit to the child and more of a day trip for the adults in their care. Taking an austistic person to a busy cafe was not a good idea to be honest.
Ive reported people in the past, there was one group of kids out on a school trip to Ikea, apparently they were there to look at the colours and patterns, but by the amount of shopping in the adults trollies that clearly told another story. I complained to the headmaster of the school (they had uniform on so I could get the schools name)
As I said though, thats a whole other story....
Ah right, well after the trial if any I'd leave it be.
Self defence is different, yes.
But at the time, things happen so quickly and parents usually have very strong ties to their offspring so, heigthened moods and and anger etc.
I really don't know how i'd react, the best thing would be to restrain really.
at the time yes I agree I'd probbably tackle the guy too.
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Personally I think the carers should be made accountable.
Also, if I'd been a father in the same position my keyboard would have been straight in his face and I'd ask questions later.