Autistic teenager kicked baby in the face

Like others have said here the carers of the Autistic guy should be blamed here for not being around him. It is not the guys fault, he is not in full control of what he is doing and anyone who has been around a person who is mentally disabled will appreciate that.
 
I am not talking about people who are severely mentally disabled. As i have said before, my first post was a little brash.

However I do not believe that people that have aspergers,ADHD,OCD e.t.c. are severely mentally disabled.

You are doing a dis-service to people who ARE actually very mentally ill and arent just a bit wierd or different, or have some funny habits.

Then you're clearly uneducated and don't know what you're talking about.

'Dis-service' = pure nonsense. Aspergers can be incredibly severe sometimes. Aspergers does not simply equate to 'a bit weird'; people who have it may never lead a normal life and can need round the clock care. Its not really fair to class people with autism as mentally disabled, as its part of their character and part of who they are essentially, but to dismiss it as not being serious enough is junk.
 
Some of the comments posted in this thread are frankly staggering.
I hope that those of you this applies to ever has to cope with a special needs child/adult, because with opinions like yours, you would probably do them more harm than good.

So you would rush over to the autistic kid who have just stamped on your babys head to give him a hug? While your childs pram was overturned and he/she was screaming in pain? I wouldnt be able to tell the kid was autistic at a glance after he had stamped on my kid, neither would you with all the emotions rushing.
 
So you would rush over to the autistic kid who have just stamped on your babys head to give him a hug? While your childs pram was overturned and he/she was screaming in pain? I wouldnt be able to tell the kid was autistic at a glance after he had stamped on my kid, neither would you with all the emotions rushing.

If you had read all my posts you would see I was saying it was a terrible thing that had happened, but once you were in full grasp of the facts of the situation you might look back and re-assess things. I would probably have lashed out too at the time for what its worth.
Its the "Lock him up/cage him" comments I am objecting to, especially as people now reading this story know that the boy is autistic.
 
If you had read all my posts you would see I was saying it was a terrible thing that had happened, but once you were in full grasp of the facts of the situation you might look back and re-assess things. I would probably have lashed out too at the time for what its worth.
Its the "Lock him up/cage him" comments I am objecting to, especially as people now reading this story know that the boy is autistic.

Yes i understand that, but the comments I am refering too are about what happen in the heat of the moment, you cannot blame anyone for lashing out on someone who has stamped their child in the face, the fact that they are mentally disabled or not wont even be a factor at the time.
 
Yes i understand that, but the comments I am refering too are about what happen in the heat of the moment, you cannot blame anyone for lashing out on someone who has stamped their child in the face, the fact that they are mentally disabled or not wont even be a factor at the time.

The story doesnt say the parents of the baby lashed out at the 18 year old either, it was the people in this thread who said they would.
 
I am not talking about people who are severely mentally disabled. As i have said before, my first post was a little brash.

However I do not believe that people that have aspergers,ADHD,OCD e.t.c. are severely mentally disabled.

You are doing a dis-service to people who ARE actually very mentally ill and arent just a bit wierd or different, or have some funny habits.

Again dont be so naive about something you know so little about ADHD is a psychological disorder resultant of neurochemical imbalance.

To be diagnosed with OCD is that the behaviour must significantly interfere with a persons everyday functioning. There is no reason for a person to fake this as all you'll end up getting is lifelong behavioural therapy and being stuck on drugs.

On topic, if anyone assaulted my child i'd floor them, psychological disorder or not.
 
Then you're clearly uneducated and don't know what you're talking about.

'Dis-service' = pure nonsense. Aspergers can be incredibly severe sometimes. Aspergers does not simply equate to 'a bit weird'; people who have it may never lead a normal life and can need round the clock care. Its not really fair to class people with autism as mentally disabled, as its part of their character and part of who they are essentially, but to dismiss it as not being serious enough is junk.

I am sorry you won't change my opinion.

With enough research i am sure people could find that there is something wrong or different with all of us.

I mean, in some cases children will even grow out of things like this.

Again, i do not believe someone who finds it hard socialising, obssesses over things, spells things badly e.t.c is severly mentally ill.

Its called a character trait not a mental illness.
 
Again dont be so naive about something you know so little about ADHD is a psychological disorder resultant of neurochemical imbalance.

To be diagnosed with OCD is that the behaviour must significantly interfere with a persons everyday functioning. There is no reason for a person to fake this as all you'll end up getting is lifelong behavioural therapy and being stuck on drugs.

On topic, if anyone assaulted my child i'd floor them, psychological disorder or not.

Still not a severe mental illness. Just a flawed character trait.

Everyone has them in some form.
 
Exactly what I am talking about? :confused:

Have you read the post below? It explains what you're talking about (I think?) pretty clearly to me & of which I'm in a agreement.

yes I can, my first thought would be get in the way and protect my child. I wouldn't care about the other guy, or possibly provoking him more, I'd get my child and move away. if you do anything else its because you want revenge and thats it, plain and simple, if you want to do whats right for your kid, its called, get your kid to safety and get him treated.

I love the BS, i'd batter him because its my kids thing. Its an excuse nothing more, nothing less. Its NOT your kid here, but your first reaction is to beat the guy to death.

But lets hope if it happens to you, you can have fun beating the hell out of the guy while your kid sits there suffering, choking on blood or worse. What happens if the guy can beat your ass, autistic doesn't mean weak, what if he beats your ass, does get angry, takes it out on your kid and because you're unconcious you can do nothing about it. kid, safe, end of, any answer other than that and you're "but I'm a parent" thing holds no ground.
 
I am sorry you won't change my opinion.

With enough research i am sure people could find that there is something wrong or different with all of us.

I mean, in some cases children will even grow out of things like this.

Again, i do not believe someone who finds it hard socialising, obssesses over things, spells things badly e.t.c is severly mentally ill.

Its called a character trait not a mental illness.

Have you actually seen someone with aspergers? Their behaviour is definitely not a character trait. You cannot compare something as mild as dyslexia to something as severe as aspergers.
 
Have you actually seen someone with aspergers? Their behaviour is definitely not a character trait. You cannot compare something as mild as dyslexia to something as severe as aspergers.

Yes. I know many people with aspergers/ADHD/OCD. Nothing wrong them except for the label given to them.
 
well give me some government funding and a physcatrist and then i can go around being an idiot and breaking laws and won't get in any trouble because I am "mentally ill".

Your wrong there you'll get sectioned or even will get sent to prison.
 
I've not had time to read every post yet, but as some of you are saying he's not in control of his actions, then he's not safe to be in public areas.

If he's a risk to people, and can't control himself, then the safety of the general public must be put first. It sucks for him, but it can prevent far worse things happening.
 
Well, I do have the choice to take the test. Even though i'm pretty sure i'm not dyslexic I could get my mum to show me how to fail it.
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You would have to be very clever to purposely fail a proper dyslexic test.
The test goes on for ages and you would have to be an accomplished liar.

I didn't say everyone was lazy, and i'm not talking about all mental illnesses ( my first post was a little brash). I believe however that a lot of modern conditions (mostly education related) are complete rubbish. I have had many chats with my mum over this who, as i have said, is a special needs teacher and we both come to the same conclusion.

You won't change my mind. I know i'm right :D

My wife works in the Special Units of a school teaching kids with autism, ADHD, Aspergers etc and she says that your mum is talking complete tosh.
It sounds like your mum is a teaching assistant who helps the odd person with their spelling because if she was a proper special needs teacher she would react differently.

And dyslexia is no joke - my youngest daughter has been diagnosed with severe dyslexia but has refused any monetary assistance.
It takes her at least 4x what it would take somebody normal to do their homework because she has to keep re-checking everything and you have no idea how hard she has to work.
She's just taken another dyslexia re-test and 4 Universities have accepted her because of her 14 GCSE's and 4 A Levels.
She would give anything to be able to look at a page and see what most of us see so I wouldn't call her lazy - would you?
 
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