And if you attacked my autistic teenager I would attack your face with my fist.
I think that would make it fair
Autistic teenager kicked baby in the face
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And if you attacked my autistic teenager I would attack your face with my fist.
I think that would make it fair
And if you attacked my autistic teenager I would attack your face with my fist.
I think that would make it fair
I dont think i would take the time to check if the person was autistic, if someone put the boot to my child id just pummel the person. If someone else joined the fray they get a beating too.
But that would only arise if i was with my partner who would be getting the baby out the way, else i think id tend to my child rather than thinking about the person who did the damage.
When ever i go out with my baby in his pram i feel very defensive all the time, i weigh up every possible thing I can as i walk down the street, thats something i never thought id do as a parient. So hopefully it this incodent would not have happened to me.
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Wow so it's perfectly fine for you to seek retribution on another parents offspring for your child being attacked, and then to attack that person's parent for wanting to defend their child.
What happens next, your dad comes in to defend you, then other guys dad comes in to protect him? At what point would the two families stop fighting if both sides had the attitude of fight first.
Do you even realise that this is what you're teaching your child so that they will grow up to believe in violence rather than compasion and and the power of speech!!
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Seems your not reading correct.
Picture it like this. Some random person kicks my baby, im obviously going to defend my family, then some other odd bod tried it on, im obviously going to carry on defending. Im the one in defence anyone else attacking me will be at fault.
You seem to forget im human.
Were starting to get into this politically correct crap where hoodies and chavs armed with plastic spoons are allowed to go beating up on geeks who are to into 'compasion' and 'the power of speech'.
A place where bullies get to go on fun trips and where the 'bullied' get kept in at play time to keep them away from the bullies.
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Well I have to agree that politcal correctness has gone completely insane.
I see no problem in the idea of wanting to defend your child, but pummeling another person is not defence. Restraing them will your partner checks your child and calls the emergancy services is completly rational and human. Attacking that person and any other that gets involved is more animalistic than human.
But im not going to want to hold onto this guy, im going to want to put him down then go back to my child.
Grrrr, hear me roar because i am animal. Its what will happen and i dont think i would have enough control to be 'rational'. I would expect anyone to act the way i would but kudos to anyone that is unfortunate enough to be put into that situation and come out rational, i just dont this that would be very human.
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Fair enough, I would hope people would have the control to not just act with violence. I doubt that even 'chav' kids would just go up to a baby and stamp on it's face, for any person to do that would display some degree of mental illness.
I have to say the Grrrr, hear me roar almost made me choke on my coffee.
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I generally dislike those who do not contribute to the society. As long as they can be constructive with it, they are ok in my books. Everyone else should gtfo from this country. (Just to mention I was not born here(UK), but over the years spent living here, I despair at what this is becoming) I pay taxes, don't steal things or punch random people in the street, why should my taxes be used to pay for TV's and gyms for criminals and other time wasters?
you are full of ****
I have real trouble believing anyone can truly believe the world is as black and white as that
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No, your right, in today's society doing the right thing in the face of adversity never does seem like the natural or very 'human' way to act, it's quite sad really, you joke in saying "Grrrr, hear me roar because i am animal" but it all seriousness you would essentially be behaving exactly how an animal would react in the same situation if their young was being attacked, difference is the animal doesn't have any understanding and is acting purely off it's primitive animalistic instincts.
Now personally I honestly think my first concerns would be with the baby that is bleeding on the floor in the knocked over cart, I doubt the teenager would have been laying into the baby, they are not prone to go into basaltic fits of rage, at the most usually it's a one off action to dispel the thing that is bothering them, and the carers would have immediately told the parents that the teenager is autistic and restrained him, with the seriousness of the incident I don't think in actuality you would've of had time to get angry, I personally think you would be tending to your baby, the anger would have came after.
Now if it was an older child that got hit instead of a small fragile baby then I think the situation would have been different, and you would act your on anger first as you would've known the older child would ultimately be fine and recovered, but the fact it was a baby and the severity of the situation a lot more serious then I think you would go into autopilot mode and tend to your injured baby first, by which time the teenager is already restrained and the police/ambulance is already on their way.
This is just guess work at the end of the day though, but I do think that this is essentially how it played out in the real incident, you see many people on here say that anyone in the same situation would 'smash the teenager in the face' etc but people forget, this really did happen, and as far as we know the parents of the baby that got injured didn't 'smash' the teenager in the face, so based on the real incident, what many people thought would be 'the normal way to react' in this particular instance it actually wasn't.
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LOL!
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Punch THEN check if the child is OK. Good priorities.
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Yes, very good priorities - you seem to be struggling with the idea that if someone attacks your baby the FIRST thing you have to do IS STOP THEM.
Then you check on your baby when you are sure they are safe from further attacks!
The is very little point in checking your baby is ok if the attacker has neither left the vicinity nor lost their capability for attack - so you make damned sure at least one of these is the case.
If the guy is still around to be punched then he sure as hell hasn't left the vicinity and if he is still standing unhurt then he sure as hell hasn't lost the capability for attack.
Now it may be the case that he has wondered off to the other end of the shop in which case you may be able to check up on baby whilst keeping an eye on the attacker in case he come back - that would be the ideal situation. But lets face it, that's rarely going to be the case and preventing further attacks on the baby should be the highest of priorities.
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Its the golden rule of first aid. 
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Its the golden rule of first aid.
LOL
I would have thought stopping the threat would be the main priority.
No but he is a danger to the public and so should not be allowed to roam cafés sticking the boot into babies. There are places where he can live supervised.
I wouldn't punch the guy at all I'd actually be all over my kid making sure he was ok and phoning an ambulance.
My first thoughts are always for my son I'm surprised at people saying their first reaction is violence.
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I was not joking about the animal thing and if you think aggression is a 'today society' thing i think you need to look back a bit further... like back to cave men and all the way leading up to now.
I see, so do you not think it more important to make sure the threat has been removed before you tend to your child? more so when the whole family is their in harms way and are able to tend to the baby regardless of your actions.
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Like I said in my post, people say probably a majority of people would do that but the people this actually happened didn't do that, and I believe that a majority of people would tend to their baby first, the autistic teenager wouldn't of been going all out attacking, that's not their demeanour, it would've of likely been a casual sudden single attack out of the blue, and straight away the carers would have restrained him and at the same time informing them that he is autistic, by which time your already more concerned with seeing if your baby is still alive for one, like I said the family this actually happened to didn't beat up the teenager so they are either saint's or this is probably the more likely out come in this type of situation.
Really I meant it in the context that we're 'supposedly' living in a more evolved, intelligent and compassionate society today that should have the ability to deal with problems in a more civilized/non-animalistic manner, we are not cave men any more.
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