Bus driver refuses to drive bus !

If you wrote "Muhammed was probably a right ******" you'd get death threats.

Christianity seems to be an easy target. Peoples beliefs are a very personal If you don't believe in God, fair enough. Don't tell others they're wrong for doing it though.
 
SB118 said:
I love GD :D
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i love multi quoting :D

Edit - the person above has lost the plot.... Writing muhammed is a right ****** is a completely different kettle of fish.

For years.... people who dont have a faith in a higher power (i.e. god) have not had a voice. When we get a voice people are ****** off, well **** you, i have to put up with a load of religious ****** so it is a step in the right direction... EQUALITY, every one gets a fair voice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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andi said:
If you wrote "Muhammed was probably a right ******" you'd get death threats.

Christianity seems to be an easy target. Peoples beliefs are a very personal If you don't believe in God, fair enough. Don't tell others they're wrong for doing it though.
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Psst... Muslims believe in God too.
 
semi-pro waster said:
I'll bite, why is the message stupid? There doesn't appear to be anything intrinsically wrong or un/provable about it.
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because its such a big argument to put it on a bus , who says god doesnt exists and what are his arguments supporting it? I believe its a serious debate to be humiliated by an advert on a bus...imho ofcourse
 
andi said:
If you wrote "Muhammed was probably a right ******" you'd get death threats.

Christianity seems to be an easy target. Peoples beliefs are a very personal If you don't believe in God, fair enough. Don't tell others they're wrong for doing it though.
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?

The target is not specifically christianity.
 
Yes... I wonder why they didn't go with "There are probably no gods".

I wish they had; as it is it just seems like a response to the Christian religions, which as already noted, are a very easy target compared to them cranky Muslims.
 
In this day and age i think it's remarkable people can still believe in god. I don't get how you can but, everyones entitiled to their views. If someone asked me to drive a bus saying "Bring back slavery" i would refuse.
It's only a question of how strong your beliefs are to where you draw the line.
 
Has anyone here taken the time to find out the full details on this advert? Its not like its been randomly stuck on busses to offend people. It is an advert campaign by the British humanist association in retaliation to a Christian ad campaign that stated on the side of busses:

"When the son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

And gave a link to the website http://www.jesussaid.org/

Which displays the very friendly message:

"What are the consequences if you reject the answer?
God’s wrath includes the prospect of eternal punishment – it is appointed to men to die once and then comes the judgment (Hebrews 9:27). You will rise from the dead and will face the Judge and know that you rejected His kind and merciful answer. You will be condemned to everlasting separation from God and then you spend all eternity in torment in hell. Jesus spoke about this as a lake of fire which was prepared for the devil and all his angels (demonic spirits) (Matthew 25: 41). "

So... its OK for Christians to tell us anyone who doesnt belive is going to burn in hell forever, but its not OK for someone to say "hey, theres probubly no god, stop worrying"...

Religion creates such hypocrits!
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
because its such a big argument to put it on a bus , who says god doesnt exists and what are his arguments supporting it? I believe its a serious debate to be humiliated by an advert on a bus...imho ofcourse
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And we're now debating it away from the buses (and in the previous 4 page thread too) so I'd have to say it was successful.

The advert doesn't state that god doesn't exist, it uses the word "probably" which modifies it from an absolute statement (which is unprovable either way) to a simple balance of probabilities as the author(s) see it. You might still not agree with the message but it isn't a definitive statement that can be right or wrong. I'm also sure the argument has the inherant gravitas to withstand the humiliation of appearing on the side of a bus, it's one that has raged for millenia and I'd give fair odds will still be going on unchanged long after you or I have passed on.

simisker said:
Yes... I wonder why they didn't go with "There are probably no gods".

I wish they had; as it is it just seems like a response to the Christian religions, which as already noted, are a very easy target compared to them cranky Muslims.
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It's directed against any monotheistic religion so that includes Islam as one of the Abrahamic religions, perhaps it would have been better to include the wider "gods" as you say to pick up the polytheistic religions too but they aren't as dominant in this country.
 
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I get around said:
In this day and age i think it's remarkable people can still believe in god. I don't get how you can but, everyones entitiled to their views. If someone asked me to drive a bus saying "Bring back slavery" i would refuse.
It's only a question of how strong your beliefs are to where you draw the line.
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i would sack you,

just like all the people who cant stack shelfs with alcohol

you are employed for a job, if you cant/dont want to do it, then **** off
 
Bottom line, a Christian society put out a bus campaign saying "Believe in God", and an Atheist society put out a bus campaign saying "Dont belive in God".

I fail to see how they are anything other than equal. If anything the Christian campaign was far more sinister.

Its the opinion of the Author. If you dont like Carlsberg would you refuse to drive a bus that had the "Probubly the best larger in the world" advert on it?
 
I like what Rod Liddle had to say about this advert in his Times column a few month's back:

Rod Liddle said:
Beyond belief: Atheism's poster boy

Apparently, atheists who devised a slogan to be displayed on London buses were riven by an ecumenical divide, a schism. Moderates wished the poster to read: “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.” However, the fundamentalist evangelical wing, led by ... Professor Richard Dawkins, pictured, preferred: “There’s almost certainly no God . . . ” Now come on. How the hell are we to stop worrying and enjoy our lives if they can’t even agree upon the only thing in which they believe? In effect, the message is saying: there could well be a God; we can’t be absolutely sure, frankly. Which might have been dreamt up by the Church of England.
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scorza said:
I like what Rod Liddle had to say about this advert in his Times column a few month's back:
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Are you seriously supporting some columnists opinion that 'Probubly' and 'Almost Certainly' arent the same thing, rather than the logical solution being 'whichever wording wont get the advert banned'?
 
Skeeter said:
Its the opinion of the Author. If you dont like Carlsberg would you refuse to drive a bus that had the "Probubly the best larger in the world" advert on it?
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Absolutely, I ain't driving no bus with a spelling mistake in the advert. ;)


More seriously, of course I'd be willing to drive that bus but it isn't something that goes deeply against my beliefs aside from the obvious problem I have with the wrong word being used.
 
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