So because it's legal you should be able to do something that is clearly immoral? You specifically mentioned bad overclocking which should mean that OcUK wouldn't even consider refunding your chip, seeing as you've ruined it for the future owner.
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do ocuk test all rma cpu's?
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So because it's legal you should be able to do something that is clearly immoral? You specifically mentioned bad overclocking which should mean that OcUK wouldn't even consider refunding your chip, seeing as you've ruined it for the future owner.
I suppose I'm engaging in this discussion from more of a theoretical standpoint, and talking about how I feel distance sale type regulations should work, rather than what people can get away with in practice or whether you are doing anything wrong!
In your situation I don't think the DSR is even relevant, to be honest. You have a chip that doesn't work at stock speeds, hence appears to be faulty. You are covered by the Sale of Goods Act in this instance (which also doesn't restrict you to 7 days or whatever).
In situations where it isn't a faulty good, then as long as you follow the terms of the contract on the website, then you certainly aren't doing anything "wrong". http://www.overclockers.co.uk/support.php
it maybe immoral to u but maybe not to someone else. u can't compare people. everybody is different and thinks different
also where does it say i can't send it back..
even Yewen said i can under the DSR , so im doing nothing wrong.
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as i told Yewen i would only send it back one time. im not stupid to keep returning them...Let us know when you get a decent chip then
along time ago other people asked and did this and they didn't get all this from people. i only asked a question, so why is it me that gets jumped on from people. it seems everytime when i ask a question here i get jumped on.
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My understanding is that your case would not be covered by the DSR. The DSR exists to let you see the item as you would in the store. You would not be able to unbox the chip in the store, nor test it, so the DSR does not cover this in my opinion. You have gone way beyond that - you have tested the CPU and you believe it has 'poor cores'.
If it's not stable at stock, then fair enough, you can return it as it could be classified as defective, but if it's simply a case of it won't overclock well, then I'd expect to see it back by return post with a note saying it's fine and a bill for testing it.
If it's not stable at stock, then fair enough, you can return it as it could be classified as defective, but if it's simply a case of it won't overclock well, then I'd expect to see it back by return post with a note saying it's fine and a bill for testing it.
as i said above the DSR doesn't state it. all this above is only what people think/opinion it doesn't mean they are right or u or me.
Yewen works at ocuk right. and he said i can send it back and get a replacemeannt under the DSR.
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He's probably only going by what Gibbo has said before - they will give you a little leeway with returns, but if they think you're taking the pee (and the item does what it is supposed to) then they are prefectly within their rights to return it to you with a service charge.
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your not within your rights is you have attempted an OC on the chip as this voids warrenty i think?
i understand that. but as he said "We will take it back within 7 days under your rights (Distance Selling Act) but if you are going to go through all the chips in our warehouse because they won't overclock we will frown upon it. "
im only gonna send it back 1 time.
nobody can know if a person as oc a chip. only way to know if a person as oc a chip is if someone pumped a lot of volis though it and burnt it out..
Just to be an ass - morality really is what effect your actions have on other people - not your own interpretation
if doing something has a negative impact on other people even if you can't see it personally its still immoral. So case in point (and I'm not saying or implying that you are or might be doing so) someone abusing the DSR results in a higher cost to the company an eventual rise in the cost of products impacting (potentially) innocent buyers and more restrictive rules to the DSR which could impact on people with a genuine use for it.how is sending 1 product back for a replacemeant 1 time will make a negative impact on other people ? i would understand if i send it back many times then yes that would be stupid. if your not happy with the product there should be a limit to 1 replacemeantJust to be an ass - morality really is what effect your actions have on other people - not your own interpretation
it's not like im sending it back for a refund (or going for a refund is not immoral? i think that'll be woser foe the company)
if im not happy with a product then it goes back, im not doing it to upset people or make higher cost to the company .
spending £200+ on a product that ur not happy with, of course u would wanna send it back..
i know some people on this forum send a product back because they wasn't happy with the product and they replaced it with a different product or some even got they money. isn't they being immoral??
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You bought a chip knowing it would run at a certain stock speed, which it obviously does, you agreed to this specification and now because its not exceeding it you want to send it back? Personally I think that's taking the pee.
OK, you say your are now not going to do this, but when you post such things is it any wonder people "jump" on you?
OK, you say your are now not going to do this, but when you post such things is it any wonder people "jump" on you?
the majority of people I know who have sent items back have done so because the item at the sepcification advertised does not meet their expectations not because the item doesn't overclock as well as they hoped, I.e not because the item fails to meet some undescribed specification only they know.
but i could say this product doesn't meet my expectations .
i do get issues even at stock, but i'm gonna wait till it get woser, then send it back to amd..
also whats the point of black edition cpu if u cant oc them?
tbh with black edition cpu's there should be a separate warranty. hehe.
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