Obama hysteria

yantorsen · 19 Jan 2009 at 22:29

Tunney said:
The problem wasn't so much that he didn't stop 9/11, it's that he completely messed up America's response. Invading Iraq to stop Islamic terrorism is one of the dumbest military moves of the United States' history, especially when you're already involved in a tough war in Afghanistan.

Not really, it probably stopped many terrorists going to America, because instead they were at home defending there homeland.

meghatronic · 19 Jan 2009 at 22:32

benneh said:
And change. General change, which is always good.

Ahhahahhaa hahahahah hahahahah hahahah.

Change happens every second.

Tunney · 19 Jan 2009 at 22:59

yantorsen said:
Not really, it probably stopped many terrorists going to America, because instead they were at home defending there homeland.

How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqi?

leaskovski · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:03

Mattus said:
Be glad that we don't have John McCain, who apparently openly admitted that he 'doesn't really understand economics'!

yeah but it wouldnt be him who was making up the policies, just some other people who would be tooled up to know what to do.

slambo69 · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:05

Tunney said:
How many of the 9/11 terrorists were muslims?

timmothy · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:06

all of them

leaskovski · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:09

God this forum is stupid sometimes. It just cant help coming back to that day in september.

Ross1234 · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:09

sbi5ar said:
He was elected because of his skin color, sorry to say, no media coverage that i have seen has been based on policies, just YEAHHHH MR BLACK IN DA HOUSE etc....

He will be better than what is in power at present

Nah he was elected because McCain was so crap

yantorsen · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:13

Tunney said:
How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqi?

Not sure, don't think any were? But the point is it would have stopped Islamic terrorists from all over the Middle East from travelling west to blow themselves up. They'd rather defend there brothers in Iraq against the evil Americans. Hence why there was various Jihad movement etc during the Iraq war.

Ross1234 · 19 Jan 2009 at 23:15

yantorsen said:
Not sure, don't think any were? But the point is it would have stopped Islamic terrorists from all over the Middle East from travelling west to blow themselves up. They'd rather defend there brothers in Iraq against the evil Americans. Hence why there was various Jihad movement etc during the Iraq war.

You dont know what your on about. Invading made them angry and made there be more terrorists.

Chimerical · 20 Jan 2009 at 00:01

Ross1234 said:
Invading made them angry and made there be more terrorists.

I agree, but it wasn't the invasion as such specifically, more the hamfisted **** up the Americans made of the aftermath of the invasion.

jas72 · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:19

Mattus said:
Be glad that we don't have John McCain, who apparently openly admitted that he 'doesn't really understand economics'!

President is a figurehead & diplomat. His team do all the real donkeywork.

The Dread Pirate · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:20

WOOOOO CHANGE!!!!

*Hangs Head in shame of what I Just did*

rypt · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:27

sbi5ar said:
He was elected because of his skin color, sorry to say, no media coverage that i have seen has been based on policies, just YEAHHHH MR BLACK IN DA HOUSE etc....

He will be better than what is in power at present

I love how they say that this election proves that USA is no longer racist because 50% of the white people voted for a black man. They forget to mention that 90% of the black people voted for a black man, so racism is still alive and well; just now it's black people being racist against white people.

Burnsy2023 · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:28

rypt said:
I love how they say that this election proves that USA is no longer racist because 50% of the white people voted for a black man. They forget to mention that 90% of the black people voted for a black man, so racism is still alive and well; just now it's black people being racist against white people.

RACE IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR IN A VOTE!! :mad:

rypt · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:31

Azagoth said:
Suicide bombers/missions are nigh on impossible to counteract, and if you do manage to act in time you get all the human rights nutters on your arse for shooting first.

Yes, but this was not a typical suicide bomber. This was a hijacking.
Hijackings should be preventable, by you know having the pilot door being locked and closed, and proper security scans at airports. (why is is that El Al has not had a single incident since they introduced good security measures many years ago, despite being the biggest target)

Burnsy2023 said:
RACE IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR IN A VOTE!!

I never said it wasn't, my point is that the black vote is far more biased towards Obama than the white vote - you you look at past elections the dem:rep black split has never been that high compared to the white dem:rep split, so race must be a factor this time.

Sankari · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:36

Azagoth said:
Yes Bush is a bit of 'tard, but I'd like to know how anyone could protect against what happened on 9/11. Suicide bombers/missions are nigh on impossible to counteract, and if you do manage to act in time you get all the human rights nutters on your arse for shooting first.

The Bush administration had received plenty of warnings from various intelligence agencies (some foreign; some domestic) which advised that terrorists had been planning to use commercial planes as weapons. These warnings included references to similar attempts around the world. Several such attacks on the US had already been intercepted in previous years; one as recently as 1996.

If the Yanks had tightened up their air security (as they were repeatedly advised to do), the attacks could have been avoided.

dannyjo22 · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:37

AJUK said:
I can't wait for the next few years, primarily just to see the smug smiles wiped off the faces of those that are fawning over the new messiah when they finally realise he is just as useless as the rest of them..

Exactly. I see this whole Obama panto as the exact same thing the UK bought into with 'new labour'.

The general public got so run down and fed up with the current government and leader they would almost vote in anyone with a catchphrase. A younger looking politician.

The words don't have to mean anything you just say them often enough. All you have to do is end every speech with "In the greatest nation in the world" and they whoop whoop it up.

If I was Iran right now, I'd start seriously pushing my luck. Safe in the knowledge this new guy is not going to want to get involved in anything remotely confrontational for a good while

rypt · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:41

dannyjo22 said:
The general public got so run down and fed up with the current government and leader they would almost vote in anyone with a catchphrase. A younger looking politician.

So basically they'd vote in a monkey... (and before some smartass jumps on me for being racist, I'm not)

Chimerical · 20 Jan 2009 at 14:41

rypt said:
I never said it wasn't, my point is that the black vote is far more biased towards Obama than the white vote - you you look at past elections the dem:rep black split has never been that high compared to the white dem:rep split, so race must be a factor this time.

Was the so-called black vote as prominent before Obama?

Obama finally gave black people a true political icon (i.e. an actual American politician, not civil rights activist or whatever), a candidate worthy of support and representation.

Can't blame them for responding so enthusiastically when voting.