UK will not legislate on piracy

Good, although "force" is a bit of a lightly used term. Doesn't say that ISP's can't do it off of their own back?

I.E - E.A come along with D&L and get chummy (payoff) with an ISP, who's to stop them then?
 
Yeah, yet people were still being contacted by D&L's with the "scam" letters about:

Your I.P was x.x.x.x
You were caught downloading: XYZ Game

Pay us £500 or goto court, bully tactic, etc, etc.

I understand the laws on DP (roughly) and know what you are talking about rabbit, but information going back to people's homes like that doesn't magically appear out of no where :)

Unless you have any other idea how they managed to acquire peoples personal I.P's, download information and then trace it back to a particular home/bill payer? :)
 
Knubje said:
Unless you have any other idea how they managed to acquire peoples personal I.P's, download information and then trace it back to a particular home/bill payer? :)
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Connect to any swarm with any number of popular torrent programs and it will tell you what IP is downloading it. Not really hard.
 
platypus said:
I was hoping for a slightly more exciting topic on pirates.
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Like these guys? :D
 
Then trace it back to a home, bill payer? How would they do this without knowledge from the ISP?

(Not being pedantic, just interested on any opinions as I thought blatantly ISP's have leaked information out).
 
platypus said:
I was hoping for a slightly more exciting topic on pirates.


No. It's unusual for them to hand out information, but the police can subpoena it.
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Yeah, but it's illegal unless the police do that, they can't just give out your details to whatever private company comes asking for them.

Knubje said:
Then trace it back to a home, bill payer? How would they do this without knowledge from the ISP?

(Not being pedantic, just interested on any opinions as I thought blatantly ISP's have leaked information out).
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Err....that's a good question actually, never thought about it.

Maybe I'm wrong... :o
 
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waso_dude said:
Agreed.

We had some guy abusing out Ventrilo server, got his IP and managed to trace him. Right down to his job and Home number!
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Not wanting to go OT as this could be good discussion, but to the above:

It's a shame when internet "anonymity" doesn't quite work out in your favour isn't it? :D I think Azab can confirm this also ;)

In general I think getting a list of I.P's is easily possible as Platypus has already said. Getting the information on potentially thousands of torrenters would be a huge painstaking operation unless they filter it down to ranges of IP's depending on the ISP then tap their "Friendly ISP's" for the info.

Baring in mind that if you have a dynamic I.P you're still going to be on the range but the actual differing slightly most of the time. Therefore to going BACK to find out who this may have belonged too (through use of logs, etc) would again be a major task, unless they had certain people "on board" giving the information "on the sly".

I.E - I think that ISP's were involved to some degree. Who and what I have no idea, I'm just willing to buy into this particular conspiracy theory :)
 
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The hardest part would be proving which person and which machine downloaded it, unless you live alone.

If there are 6 people living in a house, all with machines + other net-capable devices, it'd be a right pig. You'd have to resort to a police raid and then trawling through each of the devices storage to find the contraband.

Hardly worth it over a few mp3s?
 
Just enable wireless as unsecured if you get a letter and feign any knowledge of how networking works.

Worked for many people :p
 
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