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My disappointment with the 4870

Noto said:
Stopped reading there... with only 512mb of ram your gonna really struggle in any game at that res with bells and whistles on. 1gb is the standard for high res gaming. clearly you havent done much research into ur gfx card and performance your likely to get.

I would suggest reading forums and reviews much more before buying any computer part. Especially with the amount of 'spin' certain companies put on (nvidia being the main culprit these days).
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Well before ATI even released a 1GB card most people on this forum (and others) were claiming quite the opposite...

So who's to blame? the OP for not doing his research? or a bunch of ATI fanboys who went around the internet spreading lies?
 
All sounds like a load of rubbish. The truth is your computer specs sound fine, you sound like you installed it all properly but just had a bad experience.

Could have been down to anything really, possibly just a duff graphics card, i certainly don't think the patronising comments are needed though.
 
mame said:
4870 512mb to 4870 1GB isn't a very good upgrade unless it's going to cost you next to nothing and you have a 30" monitor. For an upgrade you would want a 280 GTX minimum. Even that isn't going to blow your mind from a 4870.
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Well , Im going to be gaming at 1366 x 768 because Im gaming on my HDTV. I know what youre thinking - its overkill. But - it will last a long time, which means good value for money, rather than get a card that will do for now and upgrade it within a year. Something along the lines of this caliber of card will hopefully last me 2-3 year at this res...unless you lot think Im smoking crack? ;)
 
Noto said:
Stopped reading there... with only 512mb of ram your gonna really struggle in any game at that res with bells and whistles on.
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I'd say a 4870 512mb is more than enough to run most games smoothly at high res with all the settings whacked up.

Bengaboy, honestly, I wouldn't base my opinion on how good the card is solely based on how well it runs Crysis, especially as the game isn't very well optimized to run on ati hardware. Infact it isn't very well optimized at all. You mention performance gets worse in the later levels, well it's a pretty common fact that Crysis's framerate slowly degrades the further you advance in the game. I was running it on a [email protected] paired with a gtx280 and my fps used to frequently dip into the 20's towards the end of the game. Also, you'd probably see an improvement if you upgraded your system ram to 4gb, as 2gb really don't cut it these days (iirc it says on the back of the box that 2gb is the minimum recommended). As loadsa would say, "the 4870 can even beat the gtx280 when 8xaa is applied". :p
 
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DavidB said:
All sounds like a load of rubbish. The truth is your computer specs sound fine, you sound like you installed it all properly but just had a bad experience.

Could have been down to anything really, possibly just a duff graphics card, i certainly don't think the patronising comments are needed though.
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Thats why Im thinking of giving it another go mate - forgive and forget amd/myself for our gayness and make love once more on a trial basis.
 
Bizarre said:
I'd say 512mb of a 4870 is more than enough to run most games smoothly at high res with all the settings whacked up.

Bengaboy, honestly, I wouldn't base my opinion on how good the card is solely based on how well it runs Crysis, especially as the game isn't very well optimized to run on ati hardware. Infact it isn't very well optimized at all. You mention performance gets worse in the later levels, well it's a pretty common fact that Crysis's framerate slowly degrades the further you advance in the game. I was running it on a [email protected] paired with a gtx280 and my fps used to frequently dip into the 20's towards the end of the game. Also, you'd probably see an improvement if you upgraded your system ram to 4gb, as 2gb really don't cut it these days (iirc it says on the back of the box that 2gb is the minimum recommended). As loadsa would say, "the 4870 can even beat the gtx280 when 8xaa is applied". :p
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Even games like stalker was bad though - I think I was expecting too much out of the card to be quite fair. I was expecting it to play everygame (bar crysis) at max res and settings, and games like COD4 suffered.

Think it was just down to my bad luck, and am feeling another go.
 
mmj_uk said:
Well before ATI even released a 1GB card most people on this forum (and others) were claiming quite the opposite...

So who's to blame? the OP for not doing his research? or a bunch of ATI fanboys who went around the internet spreading lies?
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?? please explain why did I wait to upgrade my 8800gtx then directly to a 4870x2? I read the forums.

TBH more nvidia fan boys then ATi, think that you are confusing that when the 4870 512mb no one was really expecting this kind of offering from ATi. Since they had been written off by many (me included)

I think it was just surprise and excitement in the community that there would be some competition, which benefits all, including fanboys ;)
 
Bengaboy said:
Even games like stalker was bad though - I think I was expecting too much out of the card to be quite fair. I was expecting it to play everygame (bar crysis) at max res and settings, and games like COD4 suffered.

Think it was just down to my bad luck, and am feeling another go.
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Hmm, maybe you got a duff card then mate, as it definately should be chewing through Stalker and COD 4 without a problem.

GL
 
Bizarre said:
Hmm, maybe you got a duff card then mate, as it definately should be chewing through Stalker and COD 4 without a problem.

GL
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COD 4 and Stalker is not Stalker Clear Skies ;) esp in dx10.1 with volumetric light on highest ( all settings maxed @1900x1200)

so nothing wrong with card, just that game is a beast, although I must admit I haven't tried again with latest patch 1.7
 
lunarwolf said:
COD 4 and Stalker is not Stalker Clear Skies ;) esp in dx10.1 with volumetric light on highest ( all settings maxed @1900x1200)

so nothing wrong with card, just that game is a beast, although I must admit I haven't tried again with latest patch 1.7
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Errrrr, I think you lot have missed a beat here...

I sold my card a loooooong time ago, and I was playing the original stalker.

So maybe the drivers have improved?

EDIT : 24/10/2008 to be exact is when I sold it
 
I'm taking none of you actually bothered to read the review I posted, this shows that crossfired 4870's actually outperform the new 285's, so spouting off about how inadequate they are just shows you up to be a fanboi
 
Bengaboy said:
, and I was playing the original stalker.

So maybe the drivers have improved?
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was responding to Bizarre, but no biggie ;)

anyway original Stalker and CoD4 I played with my 8800gtx and that was fine, so a 4870 should blow that away. (Stalker was crappy at launch but then got a patch that fixed things, don't remember the patch # off top of my head - was a long time ago)
 
Bengaboy said:
Errrrr, I think you lot have missed a beat here...

I sold my card a loooooong time ago, and I was playing the original stalker.

So maybe the drivers have improved?

EDIT : 24/10/2008 to be exact is when I sold it
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What was the point of the thread if you sold the card 3 months ago? :confused:
 
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