Xbox 360 Graphics Crash, no red rings

Had this problem last night playing COD4. Turned the 360 off then on and it appears to be working fine.
I'll remember this thread if I get the RROD.
 
molinari said:
Had this problem last night playing COD4. Turned the 360 off then on and it appears to be working fine.
I'll remember this thread if I get the RROD.
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I'm afraid once it's happened for the first time, it is inevitable that it will happen again.
 
This happened to me, the exact same thing and did red ring in the end. I did however call them and tell them that the screen had crashed etc and they accepted the return just on that, before it red ringed!. It would have cost £60 if outside warranty. I sent it off and got it back within ten days (think it was about 6 tbh).
 
well had a go at it today and i have to say the quality of the pcb work is shocking and certainly not upto IPC A610D stds by a long shot, dry flux still present on the pcb (and not the no clean flux) solder balls and blow holes in the solder joints!!! absolutely shocking stds to be manufacuring to
i have some pics at work of the balls underneath my cpu and can show you exactly what can happen to them.
it looks like the pad design on the pcb is sized too small and the bga balls have too much solder on them and whats happened to mine at least is that its got too hot and reflowed the chip causing the balls to short out against each other :mad:

i stupidly tried to reflow the chip with our bga rework station but the substrate of the chip couldn't take the heat and popped :(

the heat sinks were barely making contact with the die's at all!
 
Mine`s only been back from repair for a month and I got those lines when turning it on yesterday. Turned it off and on again and it worked fine. Then today it froze on startup, turned off and on and it worked fine again.

Waranty is only 3 months on repaires so if it dies after that looks like I`ll be paying for a new one. Bugger. :(
 
John24 said:
Mine`s only been back from repair for a month and I got those lines when turning it on yesterday. Turned it off and on again and it worked fine. Then today it froze on startup, turned off and on and it worked fine again.

Waranty is only 3 months on repaires so if it dies after that looks like I`ll be paying for a new one. Bugger. :(
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pay for another my donkey :).

i would demand a new one tbh im sure i read somewhere peeps dont know there rights im sure there is a law covering you for more than the norm 1 year warrenty.

allso these things was sold in a unfit state back then so if it goes after 3 years with the rrod i damn well would get em to fix it or trading std will get a call.
 
heres how little contact the heatsinks were making with the dies

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as you can see mine had the epoxy around the bga's which was supposed to aid them but tbh didn't make a blind bit of difference
 
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D.Roberts, oh wait rrod`s have a 3 year waranty don`t they, I`d still be covered under that I think. Fingers crossed for a rrod then :)

Torch [P4], cheers fella, doesn`t seem conceivable does it that they could allow this to happen.
 
John24 said:
Mine`s only been back from repair for a month and I got those lines when turning it on yesterday. Turned it off and on again and it worked fine. Then today it froze on startup, turned off and on and it worked fine again.

Waranty is only 3 months on repaires so if it dies after that looks like I`ll be paying for a new one. Bugger. :(
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I think you've missed the obvious thing to do here. If it's recently been returned after being repaired, and is still within a full system warranty, then just call Microsoft again and get it sent back.

If you want to purchase another then you can always sell on the warranty repaired unit when it's returned.

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just do what was said m8 over heat it cover her up and kill it :)
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Why bother when John's mentioned that it's still covered by a full system warranty.
 
the pic i promised

this is looking underneath the GPU BGA on the board and as you can see several of the balls have reflowed and shorted out with one another

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I know someone who sent one back claiming 3ROD, And got a replacement. Even though it was the E74 Graphics problem. He got a replacement fine. Could have been a one off though
 
Torch [P4];13385552 said:
it looks like the pad design on the pcb is sized too small
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LMAO you really think that something so simple as that would have been overlooked? The layout guys would have been working to datasheets and wouldn't of just chose the pad size to suit them.
 
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