The Malmstrom Air Force Base UFO/Missile Incident -Nuclear missiles shutdown
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Is it not generally accepted in society that a doctor/astronaut/admiral with distinguished service histories are more credible than a binman or a low-level office worker?
It might be generally accepted, but I have no idea why..
Other than the threat of losing a career, but that is unlikely to happen.
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More credible in their field of expertise, yes. But on the other hand, if you ask the doctor a question about the method of emptying bins, who is more credible, him, or the binman?
Besides, none of them trained for years to identify aliens and their associated craft did they?
Also, given that they've all worked for the government in the past, and are likely to at least have a bit of national pride, is it not also possible that the government came to them, give them a file and told them to say what was in the file, and they happily went along with it, even if it was a load of rubbish? How can you trust what they say over anyone else?
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Because (as if it needs explaining ffs) they are in positions of great trust and reputation, and have more to lose than anyone. Talking about UFO experiences invites ridicule, and those people above all others would be hesitant to invite such criticism.
Those people are not saying "xomg i saw an alien" they are saying that they saw things that they cannot explain. For astronauts it is particularly interesting because they can recognise 99% of what's in known space and are trained to identify all of the common (and uncommon) things they see.
The selection of witnesses on that wiki page is impressive if only for that reason... they are willing to go on record and say they have seen things which with all their experience and expertise they simply cannot explain.
They may like the lime light, they might of been asked to lie, it might be for money.
Suppose Harold shipman was credible. Just because it is accepted they are more crediable doesn't make it so.
why would a majour, know what he's looking at. What expertise does he have?
Does he hold a phd in advanced physics or engineering. Why would he know what secret projects the military have.
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all they can say is they have seen something they can't explain. the moment they say it can't be man made or is Et is a where they start talking rubbish.
Suppose Harold Shipman was credible? Err... great example to use there. A rare and heinous serial killer suddenly tars all the 99.9% of good, upstanding doctors with the same brush.
I know this may come as a surprise, but not everyone in this world is a lying cheating scumbag in it for a few bucks. Those people may not know exactly what they saw, but they know it wasn't anything they recognise, and between them I imagine they have some expertise in just about every field you can name that's relevant to the topic. Kudos to them for being willing to get up and talk about something that is not only ridiculed in most social circles, but to risk the things they've probably worked hard on building their whole lives: names and reputations.
I know this may come as a surprise, but not everyone in this world is a lying cheating scumbag in it for a few bucks. Those people may not know exactly what they saw, but they know it wasn't anything they recognise, and between them I imagine they have some expertise in just about every field you can name that's relevant to the topic. Kudos to them for being willing to get up and talk about something that is not only ridiculed in most social circles, but to risk the things they've probably worked hard on building their whole lives: names and reputations.
Did I say that? I just said just because they have a crediable job, doesn't mean they are..
As far as I can see none of them would have clearance or be involved in advanced research..
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2926.html?theme=light
Those are interesting, though i'm pretty sure there is a normal explanation for them.
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cool pics btw teki
David Cameron has vowed to publish any secret files that may exist on UFOs if he becomes prime minister.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7854018.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7854018.stm
He can release all he wants; people like Teki and magick will still claim he's holding something back.
He must know there's not a cat in hells chance of that then. (Sorry: couldn't resist). On a more serious note, if only it were that simple.
I'd rather beleive in flying saucers than him becoming Prime minister; and even if he did, does anybody think for a second he would be releasing classified information the MOD would like to keep? Only last week it was reported the MOD gave orders to shoot at unknown/unidentified flying objects given the so called near misses with these objects that keep occurring.
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The British Government is already releasing some files with the promise of more to come
Drip feeding what is considered of no defence significance.
I find the animosity to the "UFO posters" frankly a bit bizzarre, there are people here who post far more mind-numbing tripe and yet just because it's "normal stuff" people don't bat an eyelid. At least the UFO posts are interesting/entertaining, and that's more than can be said for 60% of the posts in this place.
I agree. The personal attacks are unbelievable as are the predictable tin-hat, is it tilting responses.
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