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So what do people regard as the best quality thesedays ?

Not only for typing but for gaming too, although disregarding any of these nonsense addons like lcd displays, I'm talking pure keyboard quality, robustness, design, and performance.

I know the IBM Model M's are probably the best typists keyboards, but they look awful lets be honest, and I'm not too sure I could get on with mechanical keys in games.

How about the Razer offerings ? Any others ?

Si
 
Tried a few keyboards at some gaming cafes and liked the razer lycosa/arctosa the most compared with the g15, tarantula or the saitek ones. It was mainly due to it having keys that most resembled laptop keys though as I prefer them :/
 
I have a G11 now, it's very nice, good key feel and macros are useful. It's much like the G15 rev 1 already mentioned minus the screen.
 
Quite simply Das Keyboard

I must admit, I am starting to find my old Model M ...rather, old fashioned now (Windows keys would be nice). But the quality and feedback is just unmatched by anything I have ever touched that had Logitech, Microsoft or Saitek written on it (I have about 12 keyboards here so I have tried most of the major players, I should probably sell some, I don't need or want all these). I think the above may be the answer though.
 
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Logitech Illuminated Keyboard.

I currently own it and can say that it is the best keyboard I have ever owned. The white backlight is extremely bright and sharp so you cannot miss a key even in the dark. And the laptop style keys make for quick and slient typing, so none of the cheap loud plasticky clicking sounds. No extra macro buttons or anything, just a simple keyboard layout, and the F keys double as quick access or media keys.

I was very interested in the Razer Lycosa before, but because the lettering and numbers on the keys are stealthed even without the backlight on and it was hard to see even in broad daylight, so it was quite a problem for me since I'm not that a great typist. In the end I went for the Logitech one because you can still see the keys in daylight and the backlight is a hell of a lot sharper. Also since it is clear White as opposed to Blue.
 
Thanks folks, I do like the look of the new razer stuff, partularly the lycosa/arctosa.

Not a fan of overly complex keyboards anyway so the G15 is probably out, I know its a great board but I just dont think I'd use all the extra's.

I do love the Model M's tho, I just dont know if I could live with 1 day to day. If they were cheaper I'd buy 1 on a whim to use whenever but I see them going for £50 plus !!

1 more thing that caught my eye, I do quite like the look of the Apple keyboard, what are everyones thoughts on those ?

Si
 
The Apple keyboards are surprisingly nice to type on actually, I have one here from when I had a Macbook Pro, I kept the separate keyboard I bought with it and use it with my other laptop on my desk, I also take it with me when I travel as it's very thin and easy to transport in my laptop bag.

You have to bear in mind that some of the Mac specific keys will not work without Bootcamp drivers installed to map them to something else. And some of the buttons do not function as indicated on the keyboard under windows. Also, most irritating for me, the alt and command/windows keys on the left are the opposite way round to a windows keyboard. So your Windows key is nearest the spacebar and the alt is between that and the ctrl key, which is quite odd if you are not used to it.
 
The Apple keyboards are surprisingly nice to type on actually, I have one here from when I had a Macbook Pro, I kept the separate keyboard I bought with it and use it with my other laptop on my desk, I also take it with me when I travel as it's very thin and easy to transport in my laptop bag.

You have to bear in mind that some of the Mac specific keys will not work without Bootcamp drivers installed to map them to something else. And some of the buttons do not function as indicated on the keyboard under windows. Also, most irritating for me, the alt and command/windows keys on the left are the opposite way round to a windows keyboard. So your Windows key is nearest the spacebar and the alt is between that and the ctrl key, which is quite odd if you are not used to it.

Yeah I went to a certain PC supertore today and had a look at 1, I quite like it you know! I know what you mean about the command/windows key tho, I would be command tabbing instead of alt/tabbing I think lol.
 
Using a 6 quid Logitech USB KB at the moment. Bought it as an interim but it's fine and will keep it until something decent catches my eye.
USB only and works fine on Windows, Linux, PS3, & Wii!

I still have a thing for the older Mac keyboard. Decent item.
 
Well I actually acquired another keyboard today, the Hiper Aluminium keyboard in black, so far I am impressed with it, especially for less than £20. I have, as mentioned, used a lot of different keyboards over the last 5 years or so, always going back to my ancient IBM Model M.

The only Logitech I have remotely liked the feel of was the original DiNovo, I haven't tried the new one though. I haven't liked any of the MS ones except the Comfort Curve 2000, but the slight curve and the fact that it has a very tiny left shift key, due to the curve, really bugs me on that, so the key action on that was 'ok' but the shape didn't work for me.

The original Coolermaster aluminium keyboard has one of the nastiest typing actions I have ever had the displeasure of coming into contact with, looks nice though.

The Apple alu keyboard is actually, much to my surprise (no really, I was genuinly surprised) quite good to type on. But for various reasons it isn't going to take pride of place as my main everyday keyboard on my main computer. Works nicely with my laptop though.

The Saitek Eclipse 2 is ok, feels a bit mushy and unresponsive though to be honest, it's ok for playing games but I am not really fond of it from a pure typing perspective.

Anyway, I wont bore you with the rest, but the Hiper is surprisingly nice. The keys have just about the right amount of feedback, I would like them to click a bit more than they do but you can't have everything for £20. They have a proper scissor action like the better laptop keyboards, not just a low profile key stuck onto a rubber membrane. This gives the keys decent feedback and tactile response.

The Hiper also has a pretty standard 'compact' layout, it has the Home/End/PgUp keys in 2 columns rather than 3, but that is fine as I rarely use those keys anyway. It has basic media keys, including a mute, which is always nice. It has just 3 LED's, Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock. No flashy rubbish at all, just a plane, standard keyboard with all the expected keys in all the expected places. The alu construction is a little thinner than I would have liked, certainly thinner than the Apple or the old CM, but it's fine, nicely brushed a dark grey, with black keys. All in all, nothing to really complain about, especially for £20.

It's no Model M beater, but it's up there with todays crowd. It's certainly one of the 3 or 4 keyboards I have used over the years that I actually enjoy typing on other than the Model M, I call that pretty high praise to be honest. And it's one of only 2 keyboards that fit this bill that I would consider really good lookers or really even remotely stylish. The other would be the Apple.

For the record I have never tried any of Razer's keyboards or the Enermax. Mostly a selection from Logitech, MS, Saitek, IBM, HP, Dell, Trust, Cooler Master and Cherry. At least that I can immediately think of, plus all sorts of assorted other crap, mostly falling into one of these brands, but that comes from working in IT.
 
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Thanks Moeks ! I'll have a look round for the Hiper model see if I like it. The Apple still catches my eye tho, I dunno why lol.
 
apple slim ;)

superb for touchtyping once your used to the keys, not ideal for gaming but doesnt stop me from coming first most of the time. Ill probably go for the razer mirror next or that new logitech game/keypad :)
 
If you really like the look of the Apple there is no reason why you can't use one. Just bear in mind what I said about the keys. I believe there is a little applet called 'Sharpkeys' or something similar which will let you remap keys. So any short-comings it does have with regards to it's Macish (is that a word?) layout, you can probably get around.
 
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