The Candle that burns twice as bright ?

When you overclck any hardware, you run it out of manufacturer specifications. i.er what it was designed to run at for it's expected lifetime. By running at higher voltages and/or speed, you effectively reduce it's lifespan. The harder you push it, the less it will last, and also you invalidate your manufacturer's warranty. If your not happy with this, then don't overclock our hardware. I don't know by how much it reduces the lifespan of your cpu/ram etc. But if your an enthusiast that changes your hardware every 2-3 years, then your not going to have a problem.

EDIT - Oh, and the candle that burns twice as bright will surely run out of wax quicker than the "normal" burning one. :D:D
 
I have yet to kill any component by overclocking. I have replaced the part due to upgrades rather than failier. Been overclocking my e6750 @3.4 for about two years ish and its on 24/7. Replacing it with a quad this week, again not due to any type of failier.
 
howiepoohs said:
I have yet to kill any component by overclocking. I have replaced the part due to upgrades rather than failier. Been overclocking my e6750 @3.4 for about two years ish and its on 24/7. Replacing it with a quad this week, again not due to any type of failier.
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I haven't either. my Opteron 146 (2GhZ) is still fine after about 5 years @ 2.75GHZ

It was my Motherboard that died leaving me with a big upgrade bill :(

What with the credit crunch and all, I want to get a reasonable time out of my new gear so I think only a mild increase will make me happy.

My Gfx card will be my bottleneck anyway till I can fund it!
 
Well, how long do Intel expect their chips to last anyway? I've got a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz E prescott that I got up to 3.6 and I was running it at around 55 degrees idle and topped 80 load. And that still lives 5 years on. barely...
 
cje said:
Well, how long do Intel expect their chips to last anyway? I've got a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz E prescott that I got up to 3.6 and I was running it at around 55 degrees idle and topped 80 load. And that still lives 5 years on. barely...
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And that's not core temperature either - that's socket temperature;)

Bottom line in overclocking - if you can't afford to replace it, don't 'clock it. There is always a danger of blowing something up, it's just not a very big danger.
 
I overclock a lot and my thinking is overclocking alone can't kill components, although overvolting can very easily even if the temperatures are ok. Most people who overclock upgrade before the lifespan of their component is intended to end anyway.
 
If you overclock now it is most likely that the lifespan of your CPU will be cut but by the time it takes to become 'faulty' you will have probably replaced it anyway. Also consider that most CPU's start life out the same but are then binned dependant on performance. Does that mean that higher clocked CPU's as 'standard' will have a shorter lifespan?
 
Ive been toying with the idea of clocking my q6600 a bit further, this would probably mean a jump in vcore to high limits (need 1.50265 in bios for 3.8ghz, 1.496 idle, 1.512 load) ive heard that going over 1.55v for extended periods could be detrimental to the cpu.
 
setter said:
ive heard that going over 1.55v for extended periods could be detrimental to the cpu.
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Where have you heard that? I've yet to see any evidence of high voltages damaging anything other than 45nm CPUs and even then it's fairly unusual.
 
WJA96 said:
Where have you heard that? I've yet to see any evidence of high voltages damaging anything other than 45nm CPUs and even then it's fairly unusual.
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Have heard a lot of people advising against high voltage like this on various forums, but then again i cant remember seeing anyone who had managed to kill a 65nm chip either, i was thinking of pushing mine a bit further and tbh i was a bit wary of going to high voltage wise, may look into getting a couple of delta fans for my TRUE and seeing if i could possibly eek any more out of this chip.
 
[RANT]I think this is the root of the problem. Someone randomly posts a 'fact' and all of a sudden everyone is running scared of 1.55V.

As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no evidence for this at all.

It's like all the nonsense regarding temperatures. According to Intel the CPU cores are safe to in excess of 90C, but you see people posting all the time "I wouldn't run my CPU in excess of 55C, or 45C or 10C, or some other random number".
[/RANT]:rolleyes:at self for getting my bloodpressure up over this.
 
For most overclocks you will change the components prior to the life of the items (so difficult to assertain the life change).

I have never broken anything in the last 8 years.
 
Yeah, after all, I was being stupid with my Q6600 running it at nearly 3.9ghz with air, and it just went off. It overheated. I left thermal protection in BIOS on. I just left it for 2 minutes, then it booted up again just fine. The 65nm are very hardy I'm told. At the time though,I really thought I'd have to buy another chip. :D:D
 
there are recommended max Vcore voltages published by intel, but as your overclocking you have already lost any warranty you have with them.
If you stick within "safe" limits and dont expect to get 5ghz out of your quad, overclocking is pretty safe.
 
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