Why do people think Newcastle are a small club?
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I see Newcastle as a mid-level club, struggling to meet it's fans expectations in the harsh light of reality. Outside 'the big 4', the only clubs I really consider 'Big' clubs are Villa, Everton and the Spuds. I put Newcastle in the same pot as the likes of Blackburn and Wigan,, nothing wrong with that, I just don't expect much from your team.
You are seriously delude though if you think United were scared of Newcastle in the 90's. You only ever gave us one real tonking (The 5-0 match) and you lot were probably as surprised as us at that score. But when it really mattered we beat you, as usual.
And enough with this best fans nonsense. It's like Liverpudlians carping on about their sense of humour (It must be rubbing off on Rafa!). Fat, topless, bald men with large beerguts in sub-zero temperatures is more an indicator of low IQ than of quality of support. Away support is a better barometer
You are seriously delude though if you think United were scared of Newcastle in the 90's. You only ever gave us one real tonking (The 5-0 match) and you lot were probably as surprised as us at that score. But when it really mattered we beat you, as usual.
And enough with this best fans nonsense. It's like Liverpudlians carping on about their sense of humour (It must be rubbing off on Rafa!). Fat, topless, bald men with large beerguts in sub-zero temperatures is more an indicator of low IQ than of quality of support. Away support is a better barometer
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It averages around 7 posts a day, your point being
I have nothing to say to the likes of you anyway so grind your teeth in
You could not think of any thing football related to say to my post so you got personal which dosent bother me I couldent careless what you or any one else thinks, the fact is it makes you look like an idiot. It seems you got very upset when you found out a millwall fan was not as stupid as you was lead to believe, thats the shame about stereo types they are never true.
"been a toon fan is a headache" I can see why proper newcastle fans are embarrassed by you and telling you to put a sock in it.
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I do though. I live in the North East. Get the North East news. The North East press. The Newcastle fans.
Newcastle should have stuck by Allardyce, I still maintain that now. Look at what he did at Bolton. Look at what he's doing at Blackburn. He would have done a great job at Newcastle, he brought in players who didn't settle, they were more settled when Keegan got it as they had been here a while so of course they played better, common sense shows that - Evra and Vidic looked like clowns for 6 months, now they are probably the 2 best in their positions in Europe. Allardyce had a team who were constantly injured, Barton, Owen, Viduka and I believe Martins too were all out injured, he had new players settling, it wasn't going to be easy for him, but Newcastle fans wanted more attacking, more flair, but without spending the cash to do so, without the players to do so and most importantly, without the time to get something going.
Anyone who is not blinkered can see he wasn't given long enough.
You couldn't because Boro are
.Keane? Keane took over Sunderland who were rooted to the bottom of the Championship and couldn't buy points and took them to being Champions and then keeping them in the EPL, playing some good football and strengthened the team massively. Keane wasn't doing that badly when he walked away, but he's far too proud for his own good at times. He did brilliantly. Adams started lower too, but where he and Ince differ is that Adams was crap then too.
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But Keane didn't start a low league club, he wasn't anybody's number two.
He wasn't involved with running / managing a club and jumped straight in.
I admit he did well, I love the guy one of my footballing hero's, but I think that players like Ince / Adams ( regardless of how good they are ) worked there way up, Ince went to a much lower level of football, and learnt his craft over a few seasons.
Adams spent time as a number two.
Keane did neither.
Keegan managed to get the team playing attacking football with flair without spending any money. He switched the formation, played 4-3-3 (which Allardyce never did with a fully fit squad) with Owen in a deeper role. Allardyce, the tactical genius didn't do this, no, it was tactically inept Kevin Keegan.
Funny that.
But Keane DID do better than both of them
Keane also spend about £80m.
And he might have done well, but he could just as easily of failed.
Personal opinion, is that ex players should spend a few seasons managing / being a number two ! in a lower league club :]
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The original post is fuuny
But how long ago was all this, it's all just a distant memory now. Ashley is the one who's put the club in this mess, and I agree that Newcastle have some of the most passionate fans around, thats who I feel sorry for.
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Not to get from the bottom of the Championship to being Champions. The fact is he HAD to spend the cash. But you look at a lot of the players he bought, Gordon, Jones, Richardson, Malbranque - they are doing a cracking job (Gordon when fit).
I'd lay the blame at the feet of that primadonna Keegan and those wonderful fans who didn't understand that patience is required before success was achieved. I doubt even Fergie could turn Newcastle into a success.
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Newcastle have the support, stadium and ultimately potential to be a big club.
Unfortunately they aren't.
Think I've summarised everything that needs to be said?
Unfortunately they aren't.
Think I've summarised everything that needs to be said?
I would have to disagree, if a manager with the reputation of Fergie came to Newcastle it would make the players work harder and it would attract bigger names to the club. And let's be honest, Fergie is a genius and his record over the past 20 odd years proves it.
They'd be calling for his head after 6 months because Shearer wasn'y his assistant or something else equally daft!