Uk prisons needs reform
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like battle royale or the rip off film "condemned"
they should be made to payback society through menial work. to breakeven the tax being paid for them to play playstation and watch desperate housewives while they bash
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Yes it's an extremely odd set of amenities to give someone supposedly on "punishment"
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What I never get is the death penalty requests.
The death penalty has been gone for 50+ years in this country and is known to not work as a deterrant.
Of course you can have 100% assurance the person you're putting to death is guilty.
DNA matches are so accurate they're in the region of 1 in a billionth that it isn't a match. Video surveillance is also going to be used if it was able to capture whatever crime it was.
If you're talking about cases we see in the paper where someone is released 25 years later after being falsely imprisoned, you'll find that it's due to new technologies we have to be able to narrow down to the right guy.
We're not quite at the level of "Minority Report" but you can convict with certainty nowadays.
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This is wrong. Plenty of modern day cases can result in the wrong verdict being given by the jury.
Again, wrong.
what is a deterrent then playstation,sky, etc is certainly not.
you remember that story of the farmer that got burgled and shot the guy and end up going prison for protecting his property. the victims are made to feel like the criminals.
if we cant even protect our properties, what can we do
in america they have the law "make my day" if someone comes on your property.. you may do as you wish with them
you remember that story of the farmer that got burgled and shot the guy and end up going prison for protecting his property. the victims are made to feel like the criminals.
if we cant even protect our properties, what can we do
in america they have the law "make my day" if someone comes on your property.. you may do as you wish with them
I don't think anyone's saying that every crime has a 100% chance of being correnctly solved. But for the ones, such as what I said earlier, where there really is no doubt about it, then the death penatly should be available.
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You can't be serious on that?
There's loads of contamination of evidence and several times when an appeal comes around the original evidence is "lost" by the police.
How does scientific evidence prove who punched who first for example.
There have also been a couple of convictions of assault on police in recent years in this country where a video has later surfaced of the incident actually being the police carrying out unprovoked attacks instead. And thats just what there are videos of.
What you're saying there isn't gonna happen until memories of both dead and alive people can be successfully read.
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So assuming you did that where is the incentive not to, I dunno, beat the crap out of wardens etc? Being let out early for good behaviour is what maintains order in most prisons.
I disagree, prison should be prison regardless. Like out of Shaw shank redemption. But they should get education and qualifications if they want it.
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But that doesn't work either. You can't apply the death penalty in that way.
Yeah, probably not the best solution....
I just can't see that, lets say someone gets sent to prison for manslaughter, purely accidental, and they didn't really do any wrong action, something just went wrong that led to someone dying.
I don't feel they deserve as harsh a stay in prison as someone who has brutally raped and murdered a string of people.
Why doesn't it work? Not trying to sound agressive, I just don't get in what way it wouldn't work.
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Where is malc when you need him!