McDonald's I'm lovin it .. ??
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And years before that heroin was given as gifts to soldiers and kids were encouraged to smoke
The issue wasn't so much whether we should ban trans-fats (I think there's a good case for restricting them on the basis that they cause more harm than they solve, they don't achieve anything that cannot be done by other means that provide less harm to health), or whether trans-fats increase the risk of heart disease (they do). The issue was that banning trans-fats will not instantly result in a reduction in coronary heart disease, because heart disease develops over a number of years. If the numbers dropped in sweden as the ban came in, then it would be related to action taken over previous years (probably lots of years), rather than the action taken then.
if you did it'll kill you quicker than the cancer, so you're screwed if you do and you're screwed if you dont lol
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Yes it's true, Macdonald's makes godlike food, unlike the trash in many restaurants, I love macdonalds would eat there everyday for breakfast, dinner and lunch. Haven't found 1 thing I didn't like the taste of yet in Mac...
It's simply good food, as most junkfood.
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So what that it's unhealthy, bloody government should stop moaning and get off peoples back, if people want to live unhealthy it's their choice.
It's simply good food, as most junkfood.
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So what that it's unhealthy, bloody government should stop moaning and get off peoples back, if people want to live unhealthy it's their choice.
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Only people who knew what to look for would be able to decide whether something was healthy enough to eat, thats when labels even state the true contents. Currently McDonalds just states fat content not what type of fat i.e. ingredients. Also I had just read the website about trans-fats and was deciding wether or not to eat a processed spotted dick pudding when I say the words: Mono- and Di-Glycerides, turns out these are just an underhand way of getting trans-fats in the product without labeling it as such.
These ******* want to confuse the few people who are looking for trans-fats (not a lot of people would be aware of its health impact in the first place) by using a pseudonym.
The people who are afraid to eat stuff and want to live healthy should never go near a mac in the first place imo. Couldn't care less personally how unhealthy the food is, life's **** after 50 anyways might as well enjoy your early years more instead. That's just my opinion though, I'm not someone who cares about healthy living...
Not to derail the thread but maybe if you eat **** all your life thats what will make your life **** after 50? As for mcdonalds haven't touched the stuff in a long time, bump a chip or a few off friends when they're in there but don't really want to pay for that kinda stuff =/.
The life's **** after 50 not because of that, but because of not being a young **** any more, you don't do reckless stuff, you're not interested in the newest things, etc...
Looking at my dad, when he was still around 45 we used to do a lot of things, he used to like small traffic light races, he used to like new technology and stuff, he liked things like a new tv, a new pc. Now he looks at me if I'm crazy that I want a 50'' hdtv, he says he doesn't understand why people want big tv's, he looks as if I'm a retard that I upgraded my pc and doesn't believe a new cpu or gpu helps with games a lot, he drives like an old man, pretty much never doing a quick drag race from the traffic lights, he doesn't play games with me on the pc any more, he says he doesn't have time for anything and spend his whole day working or reading, he's a slow learner, he's getting annoyed that when I explain him stuff that I'm too fast, and other way around too, when he's explaining stuff it's always slow and I get annoyed by him not hurrying up. He spends money on complete rubbish, like going to his family in Poland completely randomly on a weekends once a month ( so driving 14 hours, to stay there for 24 hours, only to drive back again for 14 hours to get back to work on monday), he doesn't turn anything off wasting energy and thus money ( his pc, his amp, etc, pretty much everything electrical never gets turned off and unless I do it it runs 24/7), he spends hundreds on abroad calls to some columnists in some polish newspaper and the authors of newspapers discussing politics in Poland...
Stuff like that, I don't want to become someone that spends his money on rubbish and doing rubbish instead of the newest flashy gadgets and luxury's.
Looking at my dad, when he was still around 45 we used to do a lot of things, he used to like small traffic light races, he used to like new technology and stuff, he liked things like a new tv, a new pc. Now he looks at me if I'm crazy that I want a 50'' hdtv, he says he doesn't understand why people want big tv's, he looks as if I'm a retard that I upgraded my pc and doesn't believe a new cpu or gpu helps with games a lot, he drives like an old man, pretty much never doing a quick drag race from the traffic lights, he doesn't play games with me on the pc any more, he says he doesn't have time for anything and spend his whole day working or reading, he's a slow learner, he's getting annoyed that when I explain him stuff that I'm too fast, and other way around too, when he's explaining stuff it's always slow and I get annoyed by him not hurrying up. He spends money on complete rubbish, like going to his family in Poland completely randomly on a weekends once a month ( so driving 14 hours, to stay there for 24 hours, only to drive back again for 14 hours to get back to work on monday), he doesn't turn anything off wasting energy and thus money ( his pc, his amp, etc, pretty much everything electrical never gets turned off and unless I do it it runs 24/7), he spends hundreds on abroad calls to some columnists in some polish newspaper and the authors of newspapers discussing politics in Poland...
Stuff like that, I don't want to become someone that spends his money on rubbish and doing rubbish instead of the newest flashy gadgets and luxury's.
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Sorry but Dolph is completely right Megatron, there is no possible way for a ban in trans-fat to instantly translate into a drop in heart disease, its quite literally not possible. Heart disease from most things including transfat is from the build up of such substances over years, or decades, more like decades considering people have eaten transfat for years and heart disease is still VERY uncommon in people under 40, most heart attacks and bypass's needed are suffered by people in their 50's and up increasing in numbers the higher you go. If transfat could cause instant problems, well, we'd all be dead by now. Likewise, transfat is PART of you, it doesn't just leave your body the second you stop intaking in, infact it will only be replaced over times as your cells are replaced naturally. I forget how long heart tissue takes to be fully replaced but from what I remember almost every cell in your body is replaced through the space of 7 years, so every 7 years theres nothing left of the cells you had 7 years before.
LIkewise, i'm fed up with this crappy notion, MacDonalds are evil they won't tell us how much trans fat is in this burger, so I can just delude myself and say it might be healthy, I will only stop eating them when they tell me how much trans fat is in it.
Its like any addict looking for an excuse. Trans fat does not kill you instantly, neither any other meal that could be deemed to be unhealthy. Every food has unhealthy things in it, its all ratio's. By the end of your life you'll have eaten SO much of everything deemed unhealthy for you, eating McD's every meal for one day will do nothing to harm you long term at all. One not very healthy meal can not kill you. The only people McD's harms is those who decide to live off it all day every day for life. But then when McD's appeared I don't remember any advertising recommending you eat their food for every meal for life. UNless they claim their food is healthy to eat all day every day, stop accusing them of being unhealthy.
Most people accept McD's isn't healthy and is simply an option to eat when out and you need food quickly and have limited options. 99% of the population doesn't eat in McD's every day, its not really a health issue in any way at all. THe transfat shoved into microwave premade meals IS an issue. Those meals, so many deemed as the healthy option because they are low fat, are normally all "bad" fats, horribly bad sugars and almost no real nutrition. Those meals are seen as healthy by far to many people, far to many people don't cook at all and eat those types of microwave meals FAR FAR more often than they eat McD's. Those types of meals are unhealthy and are a serious problem. A high fat cheese might have 40% fat, but its got lots of omega's and polyunsaturated fats and isn't remotely bad for you, but to many people will buy a low fat cheese because it "appears" healthy and is sold in the health range of whatever brand, however that cheese might have 20% fat replaced, but the fat left over is all trans fat, its much worse for you but more people are buying that kind of cheese than the much better for you but higher fat type of cheese.
THe problem is the bad foods people think are healthy, I've never met anyone in my life who thinks McD's is healthy food, while I've met hundreds of people who eat loads of crappy microwave premade meals with just as bad nutritional content as a big Mac.
LIkewise, i'm fed up with this crappy notion, MacDonalds are evil they won't tell us how much trans fat is in this burger, so I can just delude myself and say it might be healthy, I will only stop eating them when they tell me how much trans fat is in it.
Its like any addict looking for an excuse. Trans fat does not kill you instantly, neither any other meal that could be deemed to be unhealthy. Every food has unhealthy things in it, its all ratio's. By the end of your life you'll have eaten SO much of everything deemed unhealthy for you, eating McD's every meal for one day will do nothing to harm you long term at all. One not very healthy meal can not kill you. The only people McD's harms is those who decide to live off it all day every day for life. But then when McD's appeared I don't remember any advertising recommending you eat their food for every meal for life. UNless they claim their food is healthy to eat all day every day, stop accusing them of being unhealthy.
Most people accept McD's isn't healthy and is simply an option to eat when out and you need food quickly and have limited options. 99% of the population doesn't eat in McD's every day, its not really a health issue in any way at all. THe transfat shoved into microwave premade meals IS an issue. Those meals, so many deemed as the healthy option because they are low fat, are normally all "bad" fats, horribly bad sugars and almost no real nutrition. Those meals are seen as healthy by far to many people, far to many people don't cook at all and eat those types of microwave meals FAR FAR more often than they eat McD's. Those types of meals are unhealthy and are a serious problem. A high fat cheese might have 40% fat, but its got lots of omega's and polyunsaturated fats and isn't remotely bad for you, but to many people will buy a low fat cheese because it "appears" healthy and is sold in the health range of whatever brand, however that cheese might have 20% fat replaced, but the fat left over is all trans fat, its much worse for you but more people are buying that kind of cheese than the much better for you but higher fat type of cheese.
THe problem is the bad foods people think are healthy, I've never met anyone in my life who thinks McD's is healthy food, while I've met hundreds of people who eat loads of crappy microwave premade meals with just as bad nutritional content as a big Mac.
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Trans-fats are bad no one is arguing about that. I stated that there was a reduction in heart disease at the same time as Sweden banned trans-fats. There is something slightly wrong with that statement since I read about it a month or 2 ago all I remember is that as a direct result of banning trans-fats there was an immediate benifit, its its not directly heart disease then I guess it is a reduction in the number of people reporting the symptoms.
Dolph as far as I can see isn't really arguing a different point of view but mearly picking holes in what I have said much the same as people do when they really can't fault what you are saying but want to start an argument anyhow.
I posted up a link to google and trans-fats and also some snippets, I could not find the exact artical I was reading the last time and there was some small error in the accuracy of detail but it really makes no odds at all. Dolph is just looking for holes and ammunition to be argumentative without really disagreeing with the bulk of what I was saying.
Im not being controversial here, any point I am making is exactly what you will find if you google the word "trans-fats".
Dolph as far as I can see isn't really arguing a different point of view but mearly picking holes in what I have said much the same as people do when they really can't fault what you are saying but want to start an argument anyhow.
I posted up a link to google and trans-fats and also some snippets, I could not find the exact artical I was reading the last time and there was some small error in the accuracy of detail but it really makes no odds at all. Dolph is just looking for holes and ammunition to be argumentative without really disagreeing with the bulk of what I was saying.
Im not being controversial here, any point I am making is exactly what you will find if you google the word "trans-fats".
If you use natural oil in McDonalds then you would change it every few days, whereas if it was trans-fat oil (which is pre-heated was designed to make candles originally) then it would be much longer up to a month. You made it sound like what I had posted was completely erroneous, it wasn't I simply reiterated what I read over a month before.
However even if they use natural oil, I read that any oil heated to extreme will basically be bad too.
Whenever I go to McDonalds I only order a Big Mac and Double CheeseBurger, no fries so it shouldn't effect me. Although I do get a cod n chips Fridays.
Thats what got me a bit confused, in that even if they use natural oil, then does it turn bad when its used as intended and heated up to cook the food?
So thats the next question: Does fat turn bad when heated to a high temperature like they do to fry chips or does it take a significantly higher temperature to convert the oil to trans-fats?
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The following nutrient-rich traditional fats have nourished healthy population groups for thousands of years:
* Butter
* Beef and lamb tallow
* Lard
* Chicken, goose and duck fat
* Coconut, palm and sesame oils
* Cold pressed olive oil
* Cold pressed flax oil
* Marine oils
The following new-fangled fats can cause cancer, heart disease, immune system dysfunction, sterility, learning disabilities, growth problems and osteoporosis:
* All hydrogenated oils
* Soy, corn and safflower oils
* Cottonseed oil
* Canola oil
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What on earth are you jibbering on about now. It is not simply "good food" it is absoloute trash.
As in it sells chips and fizzy drinks or in that it has specially crated satan approved recipies which somehow are better than the KFC opposite of or BK down the road? Or is it just that Subway have got their marketing down?
Give me an example of good food then ?
LOL. Go to a decent restaurant and you'll find out.
