Spec me a reason not to get an iphone!

ethos said:
3rd party apps apps?
Able to acess the file system?
SSH access to the phone?
Ability to unlock the phone?

To name a few :)
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those maybe the advantages of jailbreaking, BUT doesn't answer skippis' original question.

not everyone that bought the iphone is tech savy enough to jailbreak it(you might say its a 2min job, but for them its not the case), most prob don't even know about it.

edit: damn, skippi posted while I was typing :)
 
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Gaygle said:
I agree it may go some way to making the phone feel sturdier, but the fact you have to compromise on a phone (ie. by emailling a picture instead of texting it, by not being able to send files via bluetooth) which is twice as expensive as a phone where you don't have to compromise at all, is mental.

I know a few people who have had their iphone screen stop working temporarily and all it needed is to be restarted, but instead of just popping the battery out, like you'd do with a normal phone, they've had to wait for the battery to run out. Also, i have two batteries for my phone and it's fantastic to have a backup battery if i'm just about to head out and i've forgotten to charge my phone.

The phone has a lot of features which are very outdated/limited/not present - but the phone is twice as expensive as much better phones without these problems. I honestly don't see how that makes sense. What are you paying for? In my opinion - the brand.
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Emailing a picture doesn't take any longer, but I agree. There's no need for it not to be on there. Then again, I can't say in the 3-4 years I've had bluetooth phones I've send more than 1-2 files!

You can reset the iPhone by holding the home + sleep button in for 10 seconds? So no need to let the battery run down. You also buy an additional battery that pops in the bottom.

Again, you say it has features that are "outdated" etc.. but i've just posted a way around like 8/10!!

Look at blackberrys for example, about the same price (at the time I was looking) and you can't really "tweak" or play with them a great deal and the gui is simply awful on them.

I think a lot of the problem with the iPhone is, people simply don't know what they are talking about (I don't mean that in a rude way).
 
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fowler002 said:
those maybe the advantages of jailbreaking, BUT doesn't answer skippis' original question.

not everyone that bought the iphone is tech savy enough to jailbreak it(you might say its a 2min job, but for them its not the case), most prob don't even know about it.

edit: damn, skippi posted while I was typing :)
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You double click an exe, press next, next select cydia and next (iirc).

There really is nothing more to it. The people who don't know about it probably couldn't care less... :D
 
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You literally can't brick the iPhone? You can put it into restore mode (dfu) or simply plug it in running and simply restore it from itunes.

Can people stop commenting unless they actually know what they are talking about :(
 
How much can i expect to buy a 2G iPhone for on the bay ? (locked)
I'm thinking of buying one until the next iPhones come out or possibly that toshiba beauty as i have no use for 3g until i move to uni in september.
 
ethos said:
Again, you say it has features that are "outdated" etc.. but i've just posted a way around like 8/10!!
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No, i'd say you posted a lot of compromises (ie. having to email photos instead of using MMS, which is FAR better for your every day person on the move.)

- Bluetooth - i'd say pretty much all of my friends use bluetooth (even the truly non tech savvy ones) as a way of sending each other songs/pictures/videos etc. It also can't stream music to bluetooth speakers or be connected to a laptop (which phones that are VASTLY cheaper/older can do)

- Camera - It has a 2MP camera (remember that the k750i released 4 years ago had one of the same res), with no flash, no video support, no auto focus (all of which my K750i had all those years ago) and is tbh, absolutely rubbish.

- MMS/apps - Ok, sure you can get the jailbreak program to unlock these, but why should you have to? It's not like you've bought a budget phone and you'd expect to have to do this sort of thing. You've bought pretty much the most expensive phone on the market since i can remember.

- Background apps - Yep, you guessed it, with the iphone you can't do this (nor can you cut and paste without getting ANOTHER application.)

- No 3G on launch - Why did this happen when other phones had had 3G for 2 or 3 years (even on their more budget handsets)

- Price - Now this is my main beef. With the sort of compromises the iPhone has, i'd expect it to be around £100 to buy (sim free). Bare in mind, that you can buy phones for £50 that have the ability to do many things the iPhone cannot.

Looking at the contracts, you can buy the cheapest iPhone (8GB) for £93 and then pay £30 a month for - 75 minutes 125 text messages.

Wow.
 
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KaneStatton said:
How much can i expect to buy a 2G iPhone for on the bay ? (locked)
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I think they're about £1 billion ish, but don't worry, all your mates will know you're super cool because you've got the best handset that's ever been made*






*The above may contain traces of sarcasm
 
ethos said:
I agree 100% :)

I can't see for the life of me why they didn't include them? Maybe it's because they really don't think they are needed. Who knows.
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I've tried the backgrounder app, and the phone does sometimes slow to a crawl, and apps sometimes automatically shut down in the background when the RAM has all been used up. It's not the sort of polished experience that Apple would be prepared to release to the masses.
 
Flammy said:
Fine if you consider comments like 'as soon as you whip it out everyone caughs nob under their breath as the majority of people buy them to show off, although it actually produces an adverse affect' and 'Put it this way, the iPhone is a fashion accessory rather than a tool' and 'I will sum it up in one word: APPLE' to be constructive comments...perhaps you'd be better off asking iphone users what their opinions on the iphones shortcomings are rather than inviting a load of randoms to give their ill-informed opinions...you wouldn't post a thread saying 'spec me a reason not to buy an Xbox 360' in a PS3 only forum would you?
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I genuinely dont understand the hostility here....ok I take it back, not every comment was 100 constructive but for the most part they weren't written aggressively! The anonymity of the internet seems to breed some fairly short fuses that wouldn't be acceptable in every day society!

Apart from (as I said before) the radiation issue, no one here has posted a comment that has made me not want one. Not being able to send MMS? Iv been able to send MMS for years and never wanted to.....I dont see the point. The GUI on the iphone is beautiful (had a play on one this evening) and I think im going to bite the bullet and get one. I know its a hundred pounds but to be honest nothing i have bought from apple has ever gone wrong (im sure it has for others) and I think 100 pounds is worth far more than that!
 
Aloreth said:
I know its a hundred pounds but to be honest nothing i have bought from apple has ever gone wrong (im sure it has for others) and I think 100 pounds is worth far more than that!
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You do realise that you pay £100 then get into an 18 month contract either at £30 a month (for a measly 125 mins and 75 texts) or £35 a month which gives you slightly more.

Assuming you are going on the £35 month contract (as the £30 a month one is pathetic), it'll cost you a grand total of £730 for the privilege of owning an iPhone. :\
 
Gaygle said:
You do realise that you pay £100 then get into an 18 month contract either at £30 a month (for a measly 125 mins and 75 texts) or £35 a month which gives you slightly more.

Assuming you are going on the £35 month contract (as the £30 a month one is pathetic), it'll cost you a grand total of £730 for the privilege of owning an iPhone. :\
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Many would say its worth it.

Iphone is very marmite like, especially texting on it. Personally I love especially the sms application, landscape keyboard is useful but you get used to the typing very quickly.

And, if you really dont like it you have a couple of weeks to send it back
 
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Gaygle said:
Ah, no i can genuinely understand why somebody wouldn't buy an N96 atm. I've heard so many people bitch about it's rubbish software and the fact that it isn't much of an improvement over the vastly cheaper N95 8GB.
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He could get an N82 and ipod touch for less money than an iphone.

That was he could still run his apple apps on the touch and use the N82 for GP/camera/calls, and it would work out cheaper.

The only down side is that he'd have to carry 2 things, but it won't be as bad as the "camera phone" that was featured in Flight on the Conchords :D

Didn't know the iPhone has no bluetooth tho, my 5 year old nokia 6320 even has that! :D
 
MikeHunt79 said:
He could get an N82 and ipod touch for less money than an iphone.

The only down side is that he'd have to carry 2 things, but it won't be as bad as the "camera phone" that was featured in Flight on the Conchords :D
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Actually he would only need the N82. The additional iPod Touch is not needed since the N82 can do pretty much anything an iPod Touch can, I think, and with a hot swappable microSD memory card slot you will virtually never run out of music/video space. Altho the screen is slightly smaller (3.5-inch vs 2.4- inch).


iPhone is fun and looks nice. Just a matter of prefference I suppose.
Either you like to get some functionality for your money or you want something shiny that people might go ooooh and ahhh for. :)
 
The whole point of the iPhone is the GUI the web browser, the ease of use, and App store. To compare it based on features is to completely miss the point.

There were MP3 players before the iPod, many which had a better feature set. But its not just about features.
 
balls said:
Many would say its worth it.

Iphone is very marmite like, especially texting on it. Personally I love especially the sms application, landscape keyboard is useful but you get used to the typing very quickly.

And, if you really dont like it you have a couple of weeks to send it back
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Almost all touch screen phones have a landscape keyboard, and a lot of them are said to be better than the iPhones (which is one of the weaker ones out there). What do you love about the SMS application(it's a bit of a random comment to me :))?

OspreyO said:
The whole point of the iPhone is the GUI the web browser, the ease of use, and App store. To compare it based on features is to completely miss the point.

There were MP3 players before the iPod, many which had a better feature set. But its not just about features.
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The web browser is ok but not as good as others out there (Touch HD mainly, it's like using a browser on a normal computer, no need to zoom to read/see most of the page, just scroll down).

I think that's the point most people are trying to make, the iPhone is a good phone (if you don't care about some of the features that are missing) but it's not that much better than other stuff on the market, and beaten by a few, but Apple still insist on charging the earth for it and others still insist it can't be beaten.

It is very like the iPod, there are better mp3 players on the market (have been since release) but it is seen as the standard and a must have product, people will just go in and buy one to fit in, generally not actually trying it or others before they buy. (Obviously there will be some that have tried a few and decided on the iPod as their favourite, like all electronic devices, but I can guarentee the majority haven't)

There are generally two types of people I have met who have an iPhone, the gadget freaks, who have played with loads of machines and gone for the iPhone as their choice (the minority) and the "in crowd", the people who probably haven't even tried the iPhone before they bought it (these include the people who spent all night queueing to get one on release day) and who only got one because it looked good/fashionable and/or it was made by Apple (the majority, a large majority of whom will own another Apple product). (There is also a third group, the ones that are gadget freaks but love apple too, and the occasional one that doesn't fit in to those groups;))

:p
 
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OspreyO said:
The whole point of the iPhone is the GUI the web browser, the ease of use, and App store. To compare it based on features is to completely miss the point.
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Put my point is that use could just get an IPod touch for £130 which would allow him to use the app store and use wifi for webbrowsing (I think), which is bargainous compared to the iphone price... :p

N82/N95 plus Ipod touch = formidable combo! :D
 
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