iX58 and X58

Lluks · 28 Feb 2009 at 03:05

a quick question, and i apologise if im being an idiot, but is there any difference between asus P6Ts named X58 and iX58? dont want to buy an inferior motherboard for not knowing.

thanks in advance

Arcane · 28 Feb 2009 at 13:05

Have you got a link to where it's mentioned?

Lluks · 28 Feb 2009 at 13:25

ok well here's one. i apologise if this is considered a competitor link, dont think it is though, its a comparison site:
Unfortunately that links to several competitors.

and heres the p6t deluxe from OC:
OC Asus P6T Deluxe X58

spitzoid · 28 Feb 2009 at 13:46

No they are the same. X58 is the name of to the chipset, "i" stands for Intel.

If you are considering the P6T Deluxe you might want to have a look at the P6T (non-Deluxe), the only real difference is that the non-Deluxe version does not have the SAS ports. Could save you £25-£30?

Lluks · 28 Feb 2009 at 14:29

ah ok, thanks for the clarification

and apologies for the link, was kinda hard to find one that wasnt a direct competitor

mmj_uk · 28 Feb 2009 at 19:06

spitzoid said:
No they are the same. X58 is the name of to the chipset, "i" stands for Intel.

If you are considering the P6T Deluxe you might want to have a look at the P6T (non-Deluxe), the only real difference is that the non-Deluxe version does not have the SAS ports. Could save you £25-£30?

Doesn't the non-Deluxe version also have less advanced power circuitry and no SLI support? (I could be wrong)

The P6T Deluxe V2 is the same as the P6T Deluxe but lacks SAS, so if what you say is correct that would make the non-Deluxe and Deluxe V2 identical which would be strange. :confused:

SimonB · 28 Feb 2009 at 21:33

Hi,

The Non Deluxe does have SLi support but an inferior power circuit 8 phase as opposed to 16 phase.

I have tried a P6T (Ilikes the physical layout of the pci-e16 slots) but thought it lacked a little in the overclocking department, passed it in on for an EVGA X58 and am reasonably happy now.

If you are looking for the last 200Mhz or so of overclocking ability I would suggest not buying the vanilla P6T. I ran the same chip in a P6T WS Pro (16 phase) and got a stable 4.0gig but the P6T (8 phase) could only manage 3.8gig.

Cheers, Simon.

Bomag · 28 Feb 2009 at 22:33

I had a P6T DL until the SAS port went west. I got a P6T vanilla instead. Both get my 920 up to 4hz and the vanilla has socket 775 holes so I could use my Wk supreme block and W/C. Gives 5C lower temps than a TRUE

Meridian · 1 Mar 2009 at 11:19

SimonB said:
I have tried a P6T (Ilikes the physical layout of the pci-e16 slots) but thought it lacked a little in the overclocking department, passed it in on for an EVGA X58 and am reasonably happy now.

How much difference did you find it made? I got the P6T, but I'm finding some niggling things I don't like, not all of which (I suspect) are the board. I don't like the fact that you can't control the Uncore voltage (CPU VTT) unlike the EVGA. I find that my i920 really doesn't like the Uncore speed to be high, and it takes an ungodly amount (1.6v) of QPI volts to get the thing to boot cleanly. But I notice that the EVGA seems to have only a limited range of RAM settings you can change.

I kinda wish I'd gone with the EVGA (it was choice #2), but with the whole upgrade costing well over a grand I economised where I could.

M

WJA96 · 1 Mar 2009 at 12:29

In my experience overclocking on X58 seems to be totally dependent on how good the CPU is. I bought SimonB's P6T and it got me 4.2GHz on air, I'm currently fiddling with my cooling trying to get it stable at 4.5GHz under chilled water.

I also have a Gigabyte EX-X58-UD5 and XFX X58 and I'd get the XFX or P6T as they all seem to be pretty similar with the same CPUs fitted.

The P6T runs Tri-SLi fine as well with no component clearance issues (unlike the Gigabyte) and I can't really see what features are missing for most users (SAS is nice, but I don't know many folks using it).

Meridian · 1 Mar 2009 at 13:00

Doesn't surprise me much, as this has been my experience on the few occasions I've moved CPUs between motherboards - the max OC stays the same. Guess I've just got an average chip here.

M

mythrandyr · 1 Mar 2009 at 13:10

yeah but at the end of the day it's not like their is a huge ammount of choice in the I7 processor lineup at the minute. There is only like 3 processors on the market, the base on costing £240 and the most expensive costing £825 ish. My guess is that microsoft released only these 3 processors because they wanted to capitalise on the overclocking scene and thought that they could make more money and ultimately save more money by selling lower clock speed processor's and allowing the end user to overclock their systems to a higher than standard speed rather than to release a range of clock speeds like with their previous line up's, so really it's no suprise to me that thier processors overclock well, if they overclocked poorly and their was only 2 processor's in the range that people could realistically afford then i would imagine that would push consumers over to the competition, specifically AMD.

Bomag · 1 Mar 2009 at 18:02

mythrandyr said:
yeah but at the end of the day it's not like their is a huge ammount of choice in the I7 processor lineup at the minute. There is only like 3 processors on the market, the base on costing £240 and the most expensive costing £825 ish. My guess is that microsoft released only these 3 processors because they wanted to capitalise on the overclocking scene and thought that they could make more money and ultimately save more money by selling lower clock speed processor's and allowing the end user to overclock their systems to a higher than standard speed rather than to release a range of clock speeds like with their previous line up's, so really it's no suprise to me that thier processors overclock well, if they overclocked poorly and their was only 2 processor's in the range that people could realistically afford then i would imagine that would push consumers over to the competition, specifically AMD.

The 'Overclocking scene' is worth very little to Intel or AMD. It may generate a lot of postings on the web but the money is in selling complete system to the public or businesses. Overall system cost is what matters - given the cost of a MB the overall system cost of a 920/940 is competitive relative to the rest of the market.