Help 95 in a 60 zone.
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"is it true anything over 94mph goes straight to court ?"
no it is all guidelines and they are differant for each police force. They do tend to work on percentages though eg 30% over the speed limit goes to court.
Also the court more often than not will choose to issue a fixed penalty rather than actually make you attend.
no it is all guidelines and they are differant for each police force. They do tend to work on percentages though eg 30% over the speed limit goes to court.
Also the court more often than not will choose to issue a fixed penalty rather than actually make you attend.
Which part of the A9? are you sure it was a 60 and not 70? I'm just trying to think which bit that could be, all the dual bits I can think of are either 50 or 70. The A9 is pretty bad for people getting caught for speeding, shame you didn't know that before. I hope you slowed down for all the fixed cameras too 
Depending on what bit of the A9 it was I would have thought it will be points and a fine.
Depending on what bit of the A9 it was I would have thought it will be points and a fine.
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Which part of the A9? are you sure it was a 60 and not 70? I'm just trying to think which bit that could be, all the dual bits I can think of are either 50 or 70. The A9 is pretty bad for people getting caught for speeding, shame you didn't know that before. I hope you slowed down for all the fixed cameras too
Depending on what bit of the A9 it was I would have thought it will be points and a fine.
If you are going north, there are two cameras. The last one is on a long curve, the incedent happend on a bit of dual carriageway around the Kingussie area.
Google Earth isnt high res enough to have a decent look.
I never knew the road had such a reputation, still, I know now.
The Police mentioned a 60 limit, but I was not speeding on the single carriageway, just on the dual, so I am slightly confused about the circumstances.
The Police were sitting perpendicular to the road, i.e facing inwards, and they were just at the end of the dual carriageway section.
Past that was a layby, and I was flashed to pull in there.
They did no vehicle check, no check on me, no radio action at all.
It was all very straightforward.
Say I got six points, how would that affect insurance? Would it double ?
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Fail to see how 95 in a 60 is going to be justified, lets hope you learn from your 6 month ban 
right firstly lets cut the crap
Police officers automatically have to report you for consideration of the magistrate if you do 25mph or above over the limit.
You have been caught doing EXACTLY 25 over the limit, so at the very bottom end of the offences considered. Have you a clean license ? if you do have a clean license you may be offered a straight 3 points and £60. And even then if it does go to the magistrate, because your exactly on the threshold, you could get given the same again.
Now, assuming you dont get offered 3 points and £60, and go to the magistrates, what can you expect ? well this offence carries a short termn ban. The magistrate can ban you for 14 to 56 days. but NO MORE. As a comparison, i was caught doing 107 and got 28 days. So id expect possibly similar or more probably less (like 21 days) for doing 95 in a 60.
If you want to turn up and argue that loosing your license for a few weeks will cause you to loose your job, then you can instead get given 6 points and a higher fine. You automatically get 30 % discount for pleading guilty, which is usually waivered if you get points instead of a ban, to given you an idea
Ignore all the people quoting 6 months, this is impossible for this offence. 6 month ban is long term sentenace and requires you to re-apply for your driving license. This is for dangerous / drink driving only.
With a short term ban, your license just gets endorsed as normal, and they rely on you to be a good boy and not drive.
Police officers automatically have to report you for consideration of the magistrate if you do 25mph or above over the limit.
You have been caught doing EXACTLY 25 over the limit, so at the very bottom end of the offences considered. Have you a clean license ? if you do have a clean license you may be offered a straight 3 points and £60. And even then if it does go to the magistrate, because your exactly on the threshold, you could get given the same again.
Now, assuming you dont get offered 3 points and £60, and go to the magistrates, what can you expect ? well this offence carries a short termn ban. The magistrate can ban you for 14 to 56 days. but NO MORE. As a comparison, i was caught doing 107 and got 28 days. So id expect possibly similar or more probably less (like 21 days) for doing 95 in a 60.
If you want to turn up and argue that loosing your license for a few weeks will cause you to loose your job, then you can instead get given 6 points and a higher fine. You automatically get 30 % discount for pleading guilty, which is usually waivered if you get points instead of a ban, to given you an idea
Ignore all the people quoting 6 months, this is impossible for this offence. 6 month ban is long term sentenace and requires you to re-apply for your driving license. This is for dangerous / drink driving only.
With a short term ban, your license just gets endorsed as normal, and they rely on you to be a good boy and not drive.
you would get 6 points in one hit, which carries a different weight than say 2 x 3 points
Unfortunately it does severely knacker your insurance. How much depends on your age, and what car your driving. Put some quotes into www.confused.com or www.moneysupermarket.com to give you an idea what premiums will be next year with the points added on.
Some insurance cos are more sympathetic than others, you may be ablve to find one more sympathetic than your current one to lessen the blow.
dont post if you're not sure if your facts
In england and wales its 25mph over the limit that gets reported to the magistrates. NOT percentages
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That is very useful information.
Thank you.
What if the limit was 60 and not 70, and I was 35mph over?
Would the outcome be radically different ?
Thanks again.
Thank you.
What if the limit was 60 and not 70, and I was 35mph over?
Would the outcome be radically different ?
Thanks again.
yes
you could kiss goodbye to any notion of getting 3 points and £60, which i think you'll likely get if your license is clean
other than that, its still the same. The 14-56 ban is the maximum penalty for speeding. To ban you for more, they'd have to send you to the magistrate for careless or dangerous driving.
These offences carry codes DD10 and CI10
now those do REALLY kill your insurance. But as said, i did 37 over the limit and wasnt reported for either of those offences. Just speeding. Having said that though, i did this on a deserted and completely empty motorway at midnight.
Do it during the day weaving in and out of busy rush hour traffic like a mad man, and its a different story.
you could kiss goodbye to any notion of getting 3 points and £60, which i think you'll likely get if your license is clean
other than that, its still the same. The 14-56 ban is the maximum penalty for speeding. To ban you for more, they'd have to send you to the magistrate for careless or dangerous driving.
These offences carry codes DD10 and CI10
now those do REALLY kill your insurance. But as said, i did 37 over the limit and wasnt reported for either of those offences. Just speeding. Having said that though, i did this on a deserted and completely empty motorway at midnight.
Do it during the day weaving in and out of busy rush hour traffic like a mad man, and its a different story.
just realised i did my maths wrong, and you're doing 35 more than the limit (95 in a 60) not 25 over the limit.
See above though. your definately going to court. Advice #1) turn up. Really annoys the magistrate usually if you dont turn up. Advice #2) look smart (full suit) and be polite and apologetic. and definately plead guilty as it gets you a 30 % fine reduction.
Dont bother fighting it unless you want to spend hundreads if not thousands fighting it with a specialst motoring lawyer.
Decide now if you really will lose your job. If you will, get proof of this from your employer and take it to court. But you need proof, just turning up and sayiing "but i need it cuz ok.." wont be approved of by the magistrate.
See above though. your definately going to court. Advice #1) turn up. Really annoys the magistrate usually if you dont turn up. Advice #2) look smart (full suit) and be polite and apologetic. and definately plead guilty as it gets you a 30 % fine reduction.
Dont bother fighting it unless you want to spend hundreads if not thousands fighting it with a specialst motoring lawyer.
Decide now if you really will lose your job. If you will, get proof of this from your employer and take it to court. But you need proof, just turning up and sayiing "but i need it cuz ok.." wont be approved of by the magistrate.
Indeed, but he was caught in scotland.
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What about the calibration certificate ?
as already said
DO NOT go down this route. You will only anger the magistrates if you attempt to fight it yourself. Furthermore you are unlikely to sucessfully fight it on your own, and will do nothing other than make your punishment worse.
If you do want to fight it, prepare to shell out for a proper motoring solicitor to attempt to get you off. You're unlikely to be able to find all possible loopholes on your own. A motoring solicitor will.
i believe scotland is the same actually, but i dont have proof as i know things work slightly differently.
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Is a ban preferable to points?
Or does a ban reflect worse than 6 points insurance wise.
I was thinking about asking for a ban instead of points..
Thanks for all the help/
Or does a ban reflect worse than 6 points insurance wise.
I was thinking about asking for a ban instead of points..
Thanks for all the help/
insurance wise no difference.
Just do the ban and get it over wtih. For 35 over the limit you're talking 28 days of bussing it and a fine around £100 ( depending on how much you earn. If you're single and on 20K + a year it may be nearer £200 than £100)
Just do the ban and get it over wtih. For 35 over the limit you're talking 28 days of bussing it and a fine around £100 ( depending on how much you earn. If you're single and on 20K + a year it may be nearer £200 than £100)