Why the **** can't people drive?!

[oli collett]

Had a BMW driver undertake me on motorway and actually came into my lane alongside my car whilst he was doing it, i so wanted him to stop so i could give him a good beating, unfortunately we were on a motorway but i flashed lights at him for at least half a mile if he'd stopped i woud've just gone mental, he may not care about his own life but he shouldn't endanger mine, just goes to show that the BMW drivers are w****** stereotype is unfortunately true a lot of the time.

How was he able to undertake you?

 

[uber soldat]

How was he able to undertake you?

I was indicating to pull into the left lane, having just overtaken someone, but apparently he couldn't wait for me to complete the manouvere because he was a ******.

 

[oli collett]

I was indicating to pull into the left lane, having just overtaken someone, but apparently he couldn't wait for me to complete the manouvere because he was a ******.

Ah - yes they don't do the stereotype much good do they!

 

[[TW]Fox]

I drove all the way down the dual carriageway into town behind a woman doing 30 in a 40 today. She was in the outside lane because, 3 miles further down the road, she intended to take the right hand fork where the carriageways de-merge.

People do this ALL the time on this road. It is SO annoying.

 

[-Ad-]

I drove all the way down the dual carriageway into town behind a woman doing 30 in a 40 today. She was in the outside lane because, 3 miles further down the road, she intended to take the right hand fork where the carriageways de-merge.

People do this ALL the time on this road. It is SO annoying.

Surely once they here the quality of your indicator bulbs they will then move out of the way

 

[rypt]

Yes they can. Try driving a low car when Barry Saxo has his fogs switched on and the road is wet. They dazzle badly.

I drove my MR2 happily with people having fogs on, the only issue was HIDs (especially on BMWs or aftermarket kits) blinding.

 

[Janesy B]

It depends on the conditions, if its a well lit road then its not so bad, it's bad when you're going down an unlit country road and some git gives you a full assult of headlights and fogs, i'm partially partially sighted (lazy eye) and it's a bloody nightmare sometimes when your only functioning retna has been fried!

 

[2Thumbs]

It's good lane courtesy though when you see cars merging in lane to change lane into the middle lane then filter back into inside lane once you've passed the mergers. It gives them space to merge at their own pace whilst keeping the other lanes flowing still instead of bringing merging lane and inside lane to a slow grind with x car not letting y car merge so they all stop to wonder wtf.

But you're assuming that the majority of road users are either not stupidly ignorant or arrogant.

I take everyone as idiots when I'm driving, it helps me err on the side of caution. Never assume that someone will do something right as they rarely will in reality.

 

[mrk]

Yeah BMW ones are overly bright at the wrong angle. Porsche is the worst offender for OEM glaryness though!

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To 2Thumbs,

I suppose that is true, when I drive in London I do just that but round here I largely respect the other motorist as I've had very little problems in general apart from the odd white van man or odd half asleep driver. In general courtesy is given and received in equal amounts on my drive to work up to Junction 7 on the M27.

Now if only people knew how to merge properly then it would be even more awesome!

 

[silversurfer]

then when i sound the horn, the retard took what seemed forever to stop driving at me, and then drove for ages half way between the lanes.

gormless freaks in 4x4s/mpvs should be buried alive

the gaylander hand no reason to change lane either. there was nothing in front of him that they could possibly over take.

 

[rypt]

Can anyone paste me / find me the UK regs for the maximum horn sound level?

 

[Berger]

There is that much bad driving every day due to doing above average milage that I filter it out now and cant really think of an isolated incident from a day to repost.

 

[mrk]

Just get a secondary horn activated by another button, problem solved.

 

[Janesy B]

I was thinking of something else activated by a button. Like a machine gun

 

[Dave M]

Not using the 2nd lane and causing a jam at a previous junction however does make traffic slower. Further, if other people don't know how to drive then that is their problem - I am still going to use the 2nd lane and merge in where I am supposed to merge in.

People blocking the road or endless streams of people refusing to let someone in is vigilantism at it's best - misplaced, ill-informed and illegal.

Or just move into the inside lane as soon as safe to do so and let people across when they want to?

The simple fact is running in the 2nd lane as far as you can will mean someone lets you in (a nice civil person like me), which slows down the 1st lane slightly.

There is no way the traffic as a whole can move any faster, it's a bottle neck.

 

[Dave M]

Fogs.

Because they can dazzle drivers.

Yes they can Just because it doesn't dazzle you doesn't mean it doesn't dazzle other people.

They don't, maybe you have better fogs, mine don't. That said they don't make any difference in fog either

Did I mention I have a FIAT

 

[osc89er]

Or just move into the inside lane as soon as safe to do so and let people across when they want to?

The simple fact is running in the 2nd lane as far as you can will mean someone lets you in (a nice civil person like me), which slows down the 1st lane slightly.

There is no way the traffic as a whole can move any faster, it's a bottle neck.

As far as the highway code is concerned you are missing the point, as one bottleneck is unavoidable. Setting up single file can create a second bottleneck which would have been avoided if people merged in properly.

For example if you were at the supermarket and there was only one cashier, but 2 queues, and a sign was up saying that customers will be served from queue a, then queue b, then queue a, etc. Would you join at the end of queue a when queue b was empty? Would you not be very upset if someone turned around and tried to stop you using queue b.

On a personal level, if people don't want to use the roads properly then I will overtake them and use lane 2 properly. I don't merge in at the end of the road, if that's what you mean, but I will move on up until the 200 yard sign and merge in there (which leaves plenty of room to safely do so if traffic has slowed to a crawl) If people merged properly then there would be no point in moving to the outside lane, as there would be nowhere to go.

 

[Overlag]

As far as the highway code is concerned you are missing the point, as one bottleneck is unavoidable. Setting up single file can create a second bottleneck which would have been avoided if people merged in properly.

For example if you were at the supermarket and there was only one cashier, but 2 queues, and a sign was up saying that customers will be served from queue a, then queue b, then queue a, etc. Would you join at the end of queue a when queue b was empty? Would you not be very upset if someone turned around and tried to stop you using queue b.

On a personal level, if people don't want to use the roads properly then I will overtake them and use lane 2 properly. I don't merge in at the end of the road, if that's what you mean, but I will move on up until the 200 yard sign and merge in there (which leaves plenty of room to safely do so if traffic has slowed to a crawl) If people merged properly then there would be no point in moving to the outside lane, as there would be nowhere to go.

your checkout queue sample just proves why people dont merge properly in this country though. Tesco still do that thing where customers arnt ment to queue at all, so when it gets busy we call for help and open more tills. But, most the time customers STAY in the queue they was in instead of moving. And when we try to say theres empty tills this way they get grumpy. So..... this is why people all queue in lane one, but get grumpy if anyone else trys lane 2, even if its empty.

Ive gotten to the point now where i dont care if a customer is queuing while the very next till is empty. If he wants to queue so be it.... Much like muppets in lane 1.

 

[mrk]

People don't think about driving, they merely operate their vehicles, the art of road craft is generally the last thing on many a motorists mind.....

Doing what I do for a living, I could probably add a situation for every one posted here and more! - Your spared, don't worry! - The UK is regarded as one of the better countrys of the world with regard to driving standards, that does not however mean imo that standards here are actually any good, I think there not.

Our roads are too congested with motorists the vast majority of whom have huge gaps in their knowledge of the roads - no motorway training for example - until this changes, I see things just getting worse.



Welcome to my world people!

According to Fifth Gear France is the best country for driving standards, excellent lane discipline and respect for fellow motorists!

 

[Demon]

Do proper 'fogs' really blind?

I was under the impression they where 'directional' to try and illuminate the road only as much as possible and hence aimed downwards.., glaring omnidirectionally straight into fog would have the opposite effect..

It is 'driving lights' that are omnidirectional and to add dispersed light that is trying to illuminate the sides of the road, where the main beam fails.?