It's Luton, there be protests.

RDM said:
Which is actually a bit of a shame because, as you mentioned in a previous post/thread it actually makes it much harder to criticise religion in general. Which I think is a bad thing.

Didn't the previous legislation pretty much only apply to Christianity, Sihkism and Judaism? With Judaism being the odd one with Jews being considered both a race and a religion?

It does still however stand that to be against Islam isn't racism, though a lot of racists are also against Islam. To protect religion from criticism is pretty much akin to protecting political views from criticism, you choose both after all.
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Making anti-Muslim statements is not racist by definiton. Its just religious intolerance. However, I personally think that there are elements of racism present when people insult Muslims as a group of people say, rather than just attacking the religion itself.

For example, the standard Western view of a Muslim is a Middle Eastern Arab but there are lots of Asian and African Muslims too. But when people attack Muslims, are they just thinking of the Arabs wearing their head scarfs? Is that racism?
 
Freedom of speech. Thats all i have to say. They have a right to protect just like we all do. Just because people don't agree with them doesn't mean its wrong.

And what's all this with soldiers? Why are they different from any other profession?
Just because they choose to do the job they do doesn't make them something special.

It bugs me to hell all the praise they get. Do we praise our nurses and teachers for the jobs they do? Just because soldiers do a dangerous job, which they chose to do, doesn't mean they are above any other profession.
 
dirtydog, sort it out.. grade A rascist here. Ive read some of the things youve had to say on a certain forum..

anyways, I think those Muslims should be chucked out of the country, but you can't generalise and sterotype all Muslim that they "stone gays" etc. The way your talking you remind me of a Fat skinhead BNP Chelsea (:p) supporter ..
 
Ship them back to Muslim countries and see how long they last with their decadent Westernised ways. I bet damn few of them follow the Koran to the satisfaction of the local fanatics over there.
 
Chimerical said:
For example, the standard Western view of a Muslim is a Middle Eastern Arab but there are lots of Asian and African Muslims too. But when people attack Muslims, are they just thinking of the Arabs wearing their head scarfs? Is that racism?
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To be honest the more likely British typical muslim image would be the Pakistani rather than Arab.
 
DreamBox said:
Yeah because the action of a very small group is a great representation of a religion of 1+ Billion :rolleyes:

lol, ignorant or just plain stupid more like! Yeah, all muslims are EXACLTY the same:rolleyes: You come across like a complete racist tool tbh!
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I know he is permabanned but isnt it ironic that its seemingly fine for the group of protestors to call and actively show that they believe all the soldiers to be "Rapists, murderers, butchers." Yet as soon as anyone even makes the slightest comment that could be seen as targetting all Muslim's its hideously wrong and racist? Im also confused about what a coward is, tbh im not quite sure its a person who willingly volunteers to join the army to protect his/her country and its somtimes misguided views a coward. I would be more inclined to believe a coward to be one of the protestors Muslim brothers that seems incapable of facing the "infadel" in battle, but would rather hide and use there fellow Muslims as cover then cry foul because they are killed in conflict.
Im all for freedom of speech, but use it wisely and dont fail to forget that the freedom comes from living in a tolerant (mostly) and open country. Such freedoms are not so available in the areas they or there ancestors came from.
 
Pete19s said:
I know he is permabanned but isnt it ironic that its seemingly fine for the group of protestors to call and actively show that they believe all the soldiers to be "Rapists, murderers, butchers." Yet as soon as anyone even makes the slightest comment that could be seen as targetting all Muslim's its hideously wrong and racist? Im also confused about what a coward is, tbh im not quite sure its a person who willingly volunteers to join the army to protect his/her country and its somtimes misguided views a coward. I would be more inclined to believe a coward to be one of the protestors Muslim brothers that seems incapable of facing the "infadel" in battle, but would rather hide and use there fellow Muslims as cover then cry foul because they are killed in conflict.
Im all for freedom of speech, but use it wisely and dont fail to forget that the freedom comes from living in a tolerant (mostly) and open country. Such freedoms are not so available in the areas they or there ancestors came from.
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I don't think anyone has said the abuse of the servicemen is fine, in fact I've read statements from different muslim community leaders condemming the protests.
 
It was more aimed at the guy I quoted, more than happy to jump down another posters throat but not able to denounce what had taken place. Its also about time Muslim leaders did more than just condem the radical parts of there faith and actually did somthing about it. Words are great but as we are seeing a lot at the moment words dont actually do a great deal, how about some actions to go along with it?
 
I think its a disgrace, I mean they are entitled to their opinion, but I support our troops 100%, and if they have a problem with the war then sod off to downing street and let them know about it!

Stelly
 
Stelly said:
I think its a disgrace, I mean they are entitled to their opinion, but I support our troops 100%, and if they have a problem with the war then sod off to downing street and let them know about it!

Stelly
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I think this is true.

All I ever hear is people *WHINE* about things. If you have issues protest against the guys that make the choices, not the poor soldiers who risk their lives.

You know why? because those are the same people who would march right out and protect *YOU* if you was in danger.
 
Quite interesting getting to work today. One of the protestors on the front page was a handler on the airport. The other guys neither want to work with him any longer and questions are being asked about his airside clearance and the risk involved.
 
Ive been talking to a good mate of mine from Luton, Bury park area to be precise, and he says that the protestors have been slated by the locals, nobody is backing them at all, apparantly it was a group of Bengali chaps from a Mosque that teamed up with Hizb,to set it all up.Muppets.
 
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