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And with that, any hint of credibility you had has gone out the window.
Has any watched The Obama Deception, by Alex Jones ?. A must see.
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And with that, any hint of credibility you had has gone out the window.
Im pretty sure if thats not a fact, it's a theory.
It was a joke dude !
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Just as well it was. That was in danger of becoming a facepalm moment. 
Anyway, Obama has been in the White House - what, a month? Give him time. Yes, some of the things he said on the election circuit can't or won't happen (Iraq for one). Unfortunately conspiracy theorists neglect to mention that Obama wouldn't have been in posession of all the facts back then, and neither was he in a position to make that call (he still isn't btw, unless he wants to break previous obligations made to the installed Iraqi government).
Anyway, Obama has been in the White House - what, a month? Give him time. Yes, some of the things he said on the election circuit can't or won't happen (Iraq for one). Unfortunately conspiracy theorists neglect to mention that Obama wouldn't have been in posession of all the facts back then, and neither was he in a position to make that call (he still isn't btw, unless he wants to break previous obligations made to the installed Iraqi government).
Sorry for stating facts, unlike this video
Seriously, this guy is partly responsible for loose change, the fact people cant see he is going to make an absolute fortune out of it while the documentary itself with be completely debunked (as loose change was) and buy into it all is really pathetic.
If he comes out with something that has evidence, a paper trail for instance, that is peer reviewed, and not clips from cable news spliced together and cut short to make the people in it sound threatening, then I will sit and watch all the way through, until that point, anyone who buys into it is pathetic.
Don't get me wrong, I'm in agreement with you about the video.
The 'considerably richer than yow' act just really really grates on me.
Nothing personal mind, I'd pull anyone up on it
If that's the main point of the movie, I can only say that fails on the most epic level. Why can't you answer my questions? Where's the proof? Where's the evidence? Why should I believe this movie?
I've probably read up on it more than you have, and my conclusion is that this alleged "fact" is in fact a lie. It is not once substantiated in any valid form by anything that the movie has to say or present.
Yes, he has. Click here for a website that tracks every election promise he made.
Current score: 18 promises kept, 2 broken, 7 compromises, 3 stalled, 41 in the works, and 442 pending.
Words fail me.
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OK, so basically what he's saying is that the banks of America are controlling the country and possibly the world?
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The bit about Global Warming is quite interesting though.
The only bit I find hard to believe is that he made over 500 election promises. Really? Meaningful ones? Most election campaigns are just series of bland generalisations and wishful thinking (somewhat like management presentations) with no actual measurable contents. You're generally lucky if more than ten things said in the whole campaign can actually be measured.
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I can't be bothered to watch this.
Does it show a Politician who doesn't keep his promises?
Does it show a Politician who doesn't keep his promises?
Are you saying or asking?
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Well, exactly. I've looked at several different sites, and they all come up with a different number of "election promises" because they all use different criteria.
442 is the lowest and most conservative estimate I've seen.
Banks and rich families (cf. Rothchilds, etc.) have controlled/aided the government with their finances for years. Rothchilds for instance had a heavy hand in deciding the outcome of Waterloo simply by backing Britain. Likewise, such families have also prevented war on the simple basis that it is financially damaging to themselves. Rothchilds made their fortune through the clever investments in the bond market on the back of war, but once they'd made their fortune they had very little desire to risk losing it all.
I am interested however, in how far the control of government budget materialises itself in contemporary society (especially since the close of the gold-window in the 1970s). The claim that governments perhaps still have to pander now and then in terms of their budget and therefore policies is perhaps true. However, you'll have to do a lot better to convince me that there's some horrible conspiracy at work to enslave all of mankind.
You see, you've gone from a reasonable claim that is well documented in the history books, to an extreme of New World Orders and Lizardmen, and that is why people don't want to listen. If I have to fill my head with useless facts, I'll start playing Pokémon again.
I am interested however, in how far the control of government budget materialises itself in contemporary society (especially since the close of the gold-window in the 1970s). The claim that governments perhaps still have to pander now and then in terms of their budget and therefore policies is perhaps true. However, you'll have to do a lot better to convince me that there's some horrible conspiracy at work to enslave all of mankind.
You see, you've gone from a reasonable claim that is well documented in the history books, to an extreme of New World Orders and Lizardmen, and that is why people don't want to listen. If I have to fill my head with useless facts, I'll start playing Pokémon again.
Don't get me wrong, I'm in agreement with you about the video.
The 'considerably richer than yow' act just really really grates on me.
Nothing personal mind, I'd pull anyone up on it
Completely understandable, it was a response to being told I fail at life, I was merely stating that I do not feel I have thus far and presented evidence as to why.
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Bah, The View. I'm disowning them on behalf of Dundee, I don't care that it isn't within my power, I'm going to do it anyway.
It depends what you mean by this, if you mean it is uncool to be in a minority who believes any conspiracy theory that floats past you then yes, I'd say you are right. Just because something is unusual or unpopular doesn't make it correct, sometimes things are unpopular for a reason although obviously not always.
It's a bit too early to judge fairly, Mr Obama has been in power for ~1 month, give it a year or so before you decide to judge him and you might have a slightly better idea.
Do they list them? Can they actually be checked? Are they actually under presidential control?
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