Has PC Gaming Died over the past year or so?

It isn't that gaming is dyeing it is because they arn't advancing enough, sure we get new graphics but the gameplay is almost the same. if you play games often for a few years you will inevitably get bored.

Go play Eve Online or something.
 
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rypt said:
Do you want to see NO evolution in graphics for 5 years?
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Yeah, I do, if it meant they devoted more time to areas that's not getting enough attention.

I'd rather see an end to this ridiculous hamster wheel of upgrades, upgrades, upgrades. I'm so sick of these games that are fuelling the hardware market. Instead of boasting about the advanced shaders they have, where's the boasts about the unique gameplay features?

It's an industry that's generating business for itself. To heck with graphics evolution, we've had it for decades now, and games aren't more thrilling now than they were 10 years ago. They just look better.

Aside from a new way to hold a controller (hardware, AGAIN) we haven't really come that far.
 
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AWPC said:
I do have a point. Those figures are all based on publicy released numbers by the publishers. Your only deluding yourself if you think thats healthy and will continue to increase the viability of PC releases. The accountants who fund these multi million £ projects only look at facts and the facts are PC games are not as strong as they should be.
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could you provide me with valid links? nope, cause apart from the rough gtaIV number you pulled everything else out of your a$$. here is a couple of links from me:

empire total war outsells killzone 2 and halo wars even without considering digital distribution sales.
http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/09/empire-denies-killzone-2-of-second-week-at-top-of-uk-chart/

fallout 3 has sold 3.4m on two consoles combined and not 5m.
http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php...e=&keyword=&boxart=Both&results=50&order=Hits

the fallout 3 developers stated that 40% of sales came from the xbox 360 and about 30% for pc and 30% for ps3.
 
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I always find pc gaming more hardcore then console gaming. My friends all have consoles i'm the only pc gamer, yet when ever i play them i usally tend to beat them even though find the controllers hard to use these days compaired with mouse and keybaord.

I find console games more waterd down and less challenging the pc games, esspecily online. Most console games you can pick up and play and be competive. With pc gaming you have to take the time to learn the maps and everything else.

This his coming from a guy who used to be a big console gamer, i dont think i would ever go back to a console now.

Plus theres properly more people playing pc games online then theres ever been.
I find with console theres always one or two major titles that are out at the min then people move on when the next big thing is out. Yet classic pc games and even the not so classic ones seem to stick around a lot alonger becasue there always people willing to play them.

I can still play the orignal cs or quake 3 and have no problems finding a game and even older games. I wonder how many people still play the orignal halo on xbox.

I can honestly say theres not one game on console that i feel is worth owning one for. But for me tf2 and football manager alone are worth owning a pc and countless other games i couldn't bare not to play. I'm sure console gamers would saythe same thing though.
 
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Dano said:
What a load of bull, yes Duke is vapourware, and so might Wake be (I don;t know, not looked into it) but if you had any interest in SoW you'd know exactly why it was delayed and that it is still coming, calling it vapourware is laughable.

PC gaming is not and never will die until the platform dies, period, there will always be somebody making games for the pc.
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I didn't say it was dead, i said it was dying, and yes i do know about SOW: and i have a ton of interest (though god knows why after all this time) and it's hideously delayed, and probably won't be here until 2010 at the earliest...

PC Gaming IS going downhill, simple as that.
 
Malazan said:
I didn't say it was dead, i said it was dying, and yes i do know about SOW: and i have a ton of interest (though god knows why after all this time) and it's hideously delayed, and probably won't be here until 2010 at the earliest...

PC Gaming IS going downhill, simple as that.
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Dying implies it will at some point die. It wont until the PC dies.

As for SoW, you now believe it's not vapourware?

PC gaming may be going downhill currently, but that does not mean it is dying.
 
Malazan said:
PC Gaming IS going downhill, simple as that.
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Source on that? Maybe a link to some financial stuff breaking down the last several years of gaming on the pc platform? anything? or are you talking 112% out of your rectum?

The "I've got a gut feeling gUyz!" crowd is getting old. You couldn't know any less about what you're talking about, your anecdotal gibberish is meaningless, go troll elsewhere.

As a side note, people should probably start looking at upcoming engines, there is going to be a massive trend towards game engines being multi platform in design with rendering paths for each platform (so scalable graphically between any) meaning the whole development angle of PC vs console will die a death.
 
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Dano said:
Dying implies it will at some point die. It wont until the PC dies.

As for SoW, you now believe it's not vapourware?

PC gaming may be going downhill currently, but that does not mean it is dying.
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Semantics.

Until it appears. SOW is vapourware IMO. That's not the case for every game, but it's certainly applicable to AW and SOW.
 
Spektor said:
Source on that? Maybe a link to some financial stuff breaking down the last several years of gaming on the pc platform? anything? or are you talking 112% out of your rectum?

The "I've got a gut feeling gUyz!" crowd is getting old. You couldn't know any less about what you're talking about, your anecdotal gibberish is meaningless, go troll elsewhere.

As a side note, people should probably start looking at upcoming engines, there is going to be a massive trend towards game engines being multi platform in design with rendering paths for each platform (so scalable graphically between any) meaning the whole development angle of PC vs console will die a death.
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I am entitled to my opinion, stop being a baby and accept that the World doesn't neccesarily agree with you, PC Gaming is weak at the moment, and the titles are dull and uninmaginative on the whole.

Rectum? you're so far up yours you've forgotten how to get back out.

Go troll elsewhere yourself you big cry-baby.


;)
 
spirity said:
Yeah, I do, if it meant they devoted more time to areas that's not getting enough attention.

I'd rather see an end to this ridiculous hamster wheel of upgrades, upgrades, upgrades. I'm so sick of these games that are fuelling the hardware market. Instead of boasting about the advanced shaders they have, where's the boasts about the unique gameplay features?

It's an industry that's generating business for itself. To heck with graphics evolution, we've had it for decades now, and games aren't more thrilling now than they were 10 years ago. They just look better.

Aside from a new way to hold a controller (hardware, AGAIN) we haven't really come that far.
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I do agree that the main improvement in gaming is the graphics. Unfortunately and more to the point sadly, I think there is some truth in what you wrote. I will add that sometimes you do see some fairly good a.i.
 
Malazan said:
Where is it then?
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In Oleg's offices I'd suspect ;)

When is it being released?

:)
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When it's ready, just like any other game which according to your reasoning is also vapourware until it's released. Oleg's last hint was end of this year, but then if you had a 'ton of interest' as you say then you'd already know that.
 
Souness said:
Back in the good old days you could buy a top class game every month, and it was never an easy decision either. I miss those days :(.
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You still can :)
In general I think there's a lot of rosetinted spectacles around, 10 years ago there were still periods without many fantastic titles hitting the market. We remember how much fun we had playing games and forget about all the let downs. Look at some of those games on merit and to be honest some of them are not really all that by modern standards.

Don't forget that pc gaming is not solely dictated by new releases. A big part of it is the huge back catalogue of older titles, plus of course online multiplayer which keeps many players going for years. Then there's the thriving modding scene.

As an example, currently I'm playing FSPort (Freespace ported to FS2Open client). That's part of PC gaming but it won't show up on people's lists of games because the core game is over 10 years old now. Doesn't make it any less valid as a component of PC gaming however, and the updates I'm using came out in the past year.

My advice to anyone worried about a so-called lack of games to play is to trawl through gamerankings/metacritic etc and try out some older, highly rated games that you haven't played yet. I'd say my purchasing habits are roughly 1 "older" game for every 3 new ones. With things like Steam package deals and GOG you can often pick them up pretty cheaply, plus of course the 'budget' labels like Sold Out and Xplosiv selling the hard copies on the cheap.

One thing I do find somewhat surprising is the way these discussions (which come up every year) get pretty heated. Even if PC gaming is 'dying', you'd have to say that it is a very slow and drawn out death. In fact there's even an argument to say that we're slowly seeing a move towards assimiliation rather than death, where some of the best features of PC gaming are slowly being ported to consoles (online capabilities, HD storage for mods/DLC etc, PC-style hardware configurations, high resolution support etc)
 
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Spektor said:
As a side note, people should probably start looking at upcoming engines, there is going to be a massive trend towards game engines being multi platform in design with rendering paths for each platform (so scalable graphically between any) meaning the whole development angle of PC vs console will die a death.
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Given how none of the 4 gaming platforms run on similar hardware ...
The closest are PC and 360, and even here there are MAJOR differences in how you develop the game.
 
Dano said:
In Oleg's offices I'd suspect ;)



When it's ready, just like any other game which according to your reasoning is also vapourware until it's released. Oleg's last hint was end of this year, but then if you had a 'ton of interest' as you say then you'd already know that.
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So you have no idea of a release date either then? I thought so :D - Dont try and yell me what me what my definiton of vaporware is either...

I already mentioned it probably wasn't going to be released until '10 so that 's this theory:

"but then if you had a 'ton of interest' as you say then you'd already know that"


blown out the water...

:;)
 
Honestly I know people have always been saying PC gaming is dying but I think the time has finally come.

Other than MMORPG's the future of PC games looks pretty shabby, look at what is in development.
 
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