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AM2+ Vs AM3

You most likely had the wrong ID & its not 100% foolproof as sometimes the chips used change.
nope, the id was the same.. evem emailed the company to make sure. they worked in my other board fine. also checked the part number using EVEREST (i think it was with that.)
 
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nope, the id was the same.. evem emailed the company to make sure. they worked in my other board fine. also checked the part number using EVEREST (i think it was with that.)

The bios version can also effect compatibility.

My ram would no longer show up as 8GB usable after using the later bioses from MSI with the mobo in Sig & would only show up & as 4GB usable.
 
I'd like to buy and build the system, but in 1/2 years time would like to change the CPU and add more memory without having to replace the motherboard or spend LOTS again on other things....

Given this I don't understand why people are recommending an AM2+ system.
I can put together an AM3 system with 4Gb DDR3 for less than those listed above...

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If you're dead set against against an X3, put an 810 in instead, these all clock as high as a 940 anyway. You don't need 8Gb RAM now, and when you do DDR3 will be even cheaper.
Monitor choice is yours... the psu is as good as it gets + modular for a clean install. The WD Green drive was my choice for quietness, you may want different, I simply put down the same graphics card as everyone else.

No one's mentioned you might want a decent cpu cooler, budget £30 for a Sunbeam CCF, TRUE or Scythe Ninja as examples.
 
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Given this I don't understand why people are recommending an AM2+ system.
I can put together an AM3 system with 4Gb DDR3 for less than those listed above...

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If you're dead set against against an X3, put an 810 in instead, these all clock as high as a 940 anyway. You don't need 8Gb RAM now, and when you do DDR3 will be even cheaper.
Monitor choice is yours... the psu is as good as it gets + modular for a clean install. The WD Green drive was my choice for quietness, you may want different, I simply put down the same graphics card as everyone else.

No one's mentioned you might want a decent cpu cooler, budget £30 for a Sunbeam CCF, TRUE or Scythe Ninja as examples.
if u read this thread fully you'll see he wants a freeview monitor with hdmi's. which will take the price up..

also ddr3 isn't oh wow i must have it because its much better.. the different isn't that much...

my friend as a am3 setup and tbh he said he doesn't see much differents in real world performance, benchmarks performance is a differents
 
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Ok, i'm leaning your way to be honest...

What are the advantages of going AM3 CPU, Board & DDR3?

Looking at the Asus M4A79T Deluxe board, and seems to give some nice reviews...
 
Future Proof?

Also, whats the best clocking AM3 CPU around? I will be only clocking on Air for now.... might get my old water & phase change out in the near future...

Dean
 
Im still wait cos AMD release new 32nm core by later 2010-2011 that why Im interesting to see -- rather to wait than buy it this year.. Im in no hurry.
 
Future Proof?

Also, whats the best clocking AM3 CPU around? I will be only clocking on Air for now.... might get my old water & phase change out in the near future...

Dean
well all am3 chips work in a am2+ boards but maybe in a year or 2, they'll stop puting ddr2 controller in the cpu's.

720 clock around 3.4-3.8ghz , 810 clock about the same.

as for being future proof, its impossible. maybe in a year or so, there'll be am3+ or am4.
 
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if u read this thread fully you'll see he wants a freeview monitor with hdmi's. which will take the price up..

also ddr3 isn't oh wow i must have it because its much better.. the different isn't that much...

Fair enough re the monitor, but that wasn't the point of my reply. DDR3 isn't about how much faster it is, it's about the fact that it's the new platform. Anyone buying a brand new system now, with the intention of upgrading it in 1 or 2 years time would be foolish to buy into a system that's essentially been discontinued already.
 
Yeah, suppose you are right TBH...

How about this spec:
- Samsung T240HD 24" Widescreen LCD Freeview Monitor (LS24TDDSUV/EN)
- Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
- Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail (21133-04-20)
- AMD Phenom II X3 Tri Core 720 Black Edition 2.8GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail
- Corsair HX 620W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
- Corsair 4GB DDR3 DHX 1600C9DHX Twin3X (2x2GB) (TW3X4G1600C9DHX)
- Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (WD6401AALS)
- Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM3/LGA775)
- Samsung SH-S223F/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM

Spent a bit more on the PSU & Decent Cooler this time, as saved some on CPU & Memory...

Dean
 
Fair enough re the monitor, but that wasn't the point of my reply. DDR3 isn't about how much faster it is, it's about the fact that it's the new platform. Anyone buying a brand new system now, with the intention of upgrading it in 1 or 2 years time would be foolish to buy into a system that's essentially been discontinued already.
but the am2+ isn't discontinued really because all the new chips works in a am2+ board and still get the full performance from the chip, unlike the am2 boards didn't get the full performance from a am2+ chip... so basicly the new chips could/should be called am2+/am3.
 
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well all am3 chips work in a am2+ boards but maybe in a year or 2, they'll stop puting ddr2 controller in the cpu's.

720 clock around 3.4-3.8ghz , 810 clock about the same.

as for being future proof, its impossible. maybe in a year or so, there'll be am3+ or am4.

Future proof is buying a product from selection that will give you the longest possible usage or upgrade ability from a selection that is available at the time & not how long until the next new gen .

Socket AM2+ will die before socket AM3 so that makes AM3 more future proof. its not about how long it will be around for before the next, its about which of the 2 from a purchasing date will be around the longest.
 
Future proof is buying a product from selection that will give you the longest possible usage or upgrade ability from a selection that is available at the time & not how long until the next new gen .

Socket AM2+ will die before socket AM3 so that makes AM3 more future proof. its not about how long it will be around for before the next, its about which of the 2 from a purchasing date will be around the longest.
i understand what your saying but i still say its impossible to future proof because there will always something better out in a few months.

also having said that the am3 may die as soon as the am4 is release (if its a totally different socket). unlike the am2+ which isn't died yet and i can't see why it should die because nothing as really been changed with the am3 platform, only the ddr3.
 
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i understand what your saying but i still say its impossible to future proof because there will always something better out in a few months.

also having said that the am3 may die as soon as the am4 is release (if its a totally different socket). unlike the am2+ which isn't died yet and i can't see why it should die because nothing as really been changed with the am3 platform, only the ddr3.

Part 1 says that you don't understand the term.
The term you're replying to would be superseded by another which can not be proofed from.
Future proofing from limiting aspects can be made as there is not a need to upgrade when a product is superseded unless you have a need for what the superseding product offers over the superseded. unless support limited.


A 4870 1GB is more future proof than a 4870 512MB if I'm likely to make use of the 1GB of ram in the future. The fact that a 5870 will be out in the future does not change that fact between the 4870 1GB/512MB.
A 5870 512MB could be less futureproof than a 4870 1GB because of the memory aspect & not a technological one. Its down to the individual what aspect is the most important based on their usage & needs. unless support limited.

Part 2
The chances of AM3 dying before AM2+ is very slim.
 
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