Hull accuse Fabregas of spitting

I didn't say Fabregas goes into tackles to injure players and i said Diouf is worse at the things i mentioned but Fabregas is guilty of all the things i've said, can't think of anybody else (other than Diouf of course) who is.
 
jakeke said:
Hull could have got one or two more!? They didn't leave their half after 30 minutes! It was never proven that Cesc spat at Ballack either, people are too hasty to make him guilty, he could have easily just insulted him and 'got in his face' so to speak!
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Did you watch the game ?

Because I saw Hull come very close with an offside decision, and the ball hit the top of the net. These could easily of being goals, Arsenal had a so so offside given as a goal.

Hull did indeed defend, and time waste, but I said this in what I originally said.

It appears on the video that he spat at Ballack, and Ballacks reaction, it could have being made up by Ballack, personally think that is pushing it. You might just not like the idea of a player having a nasty side. Cesc is thought of the golden boy of Arsenal and Spanish football, so don't get all up about everyone is quick to judge him as a trouble maker.

The majority of football fans think of him as a world talent. Accusations and behavior like this is what leads to him getting a tarnished reputation.
 
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Tummy said:
Did you watch the game ?

Because I saw Hull come very close with an offside decision, and the ball hit the top of the net. These could easily of being goals, Arsenal had a so so offside given as a goal.

Hull did indeed defend, and time waste, but I said this in what I originally said.

It appears on the video that he spat at Ballack, and Ballacks reaction, it could have being made up by Ballack, personally think that is pushing it. You might just not like the idea of a player having a nasty side. Cesc is thought of the golden boy of Arsenal and Spanish football, so don't get all up about everyone is quick to judge him as a trouble maker.

The majority of football fans think of him as a world talent. Accusations and behavior like this is what leads to him getting a tarnished reputation.
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In my opinion Hull were lucky to score one and their play didn't deserve any more than one. Maybe I'm biased though, I just didn't think they were particularly threatening besides the goal and the offside.

I never said Cesc did or didn't spit at Ballack, I just said that none of us know whether he did or not, so we shouldn't be assuming he did. Only him and Ballack know for sure, we shouldn't speculate and certainly shouldn't assume he definitely did, just because it looked like he did. Having said all that, I know he's far from perfect so I wouldn't be surprised if he did, I like him but I don't love him, it wouldn't really matter to me if he did.
 
jakeke said:
In my opinion Hull were lucky to score one and their play didn't deserve any more than one. Maybe I'm biased though, I just didn't think they were particularly threatening besides the goal and the offside.

I never said Cesc did or didn't spit at Ballack, I just said that none of us know whether he did or not, so we shouldn't be assuming he did. Only him and Ballack know for sure, we shouldn't speculate and certainly shouldn't assume he definitely did, just because it looked like he did. Having said all that, I know he's far from perfect so I wouldn't be surprised if he did, I like him but I don't love him, it wouldn't really matter to me if he did.
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Hull had a goal flagged offside, and they hit the top of the net. They to me are chances, I never said that Hull made many chances, I said one more then one occasion they were defensive and wasted time, so I don't get what you're trying to say. I also said they were fairly lucky in the goal they did score.

However, Arsenal were also lucky with their second goal, Hull had a goal flagged offside and Arsenal got away with it. (maybe because it was Arsenal at home ? I don't know)

Cesc on that Video appears to spit in the face of Ballack.
 
BaZ87 said:
Come on jakeke. Although you can't see it clearly, it's fair to say that he spat in Ballack's face.
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Well unless you have super sight or something...ive looked at the video posted above numerous times and i still cant see for sure if Fabregas spat at Ballack...to me it seems like hes telling muppet to get up and Ballack just overreacted.


As for this incident??...its pretty funny that Hull have gone this far to make a complaint about it...what next is Phil Brown going to sue Arsenal for loss of earnings because his precious team got knocked the **** out:p:D.
 
I quite like Hull as a club and Phil Brown as a manager despite his being tainted by Allardyce association ;) but I have to say I think most of this is down to sour grapes. If Cesc spat at this guy then fair enough thats to be frowned upon and he should be punished in some way but lets face it we might never know for sure.

Back to the football - Hull didn't have much to offer last night and, ok they did have 'chances' where they could've...might've scored a couple of times but no more so than when you watch WBA and they play 'alright' but then get done in the end. Arsenal were the only team really seriously going for it and they do deserve to be the team going further imho.

As for the Cesc/Diouff comparisons...you're having a laugh! Diouff is week in week out one of the most hateful players in the league and Cesc...hasn't been playing for weeks now :) Seriously though Bellamy/Diouff analogies I can live with but Cesc Fabregas whilst not without his blemished track record for the odd dodgy action is not remotely as bad as Diouff. His tackle on Almunia for no apparent reason last week is a case in point.

As others have said Cesc is definitely no saint but both off and on the pitch he is a much better behaved player than a great many of our 'stars' - Gerrard, Rooney, Cole, Ronaldo etc etc.
 
Talbs13 said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7950287.stm

Im sorry, but Phil Brown is a complete and utter ******!
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I would assume that he is trying to use this as a way to fire up his players. "Look lads Arsenal don't think we have a right to be here, lets show them in the final run in!" Unfortunalty for himself he is coming across as a bit of a clown, which is hardly surprising as most people involved in football aren't all that bright.
 
I believe it's because Horton has been in charge for the cup games, and possibly midweek fixtures too. Him and Brown decided to split their responsibilities so they would each get a full week to prepare for matches.
 
Phil Brown proved to be a liar

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7950287.stm

Quote;
Brown also revealed he was unhappy with an apparent lack of courtesy shown to him by Wenger in the clubs' two league meetings this season.

"It just shows how we've got up the noses of the Arsenal hierarchy.

"He wouldn't shake my hand when we beat them fairly 2-1 at the Emirates, he wouldn't shake my hand when they beat us, fairly, 3-1 at the KC Stadium."

Now check the pic
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/27092...anager-phil-brown-shakes-hands-arsenal-s.html
 
Im failing to see why Arsenal fans are trying to come up with as many BS excuses to defend him. Undoubtedly a very talented player but if anyone thinks he didn't spit at Ballack should really goto spec savers. At the moment it's all conjecture to pantomime proportions, "Oh yes he did" cry Hull, "Oh no he didn't" cry Arsenal.

IF it's true, why are Arsenal fans trying to trivialise it by saying it was only at his feet. Anyone who has played football at any level will tell you that is the single worse think you can do.

What makes matters worse is all the Gooners bringing other players like Gerrard (Yes his badge kissing and camera kissing is cringeworthy and he dives with the best of 'em), Ronaldo (Yes he goes to ground to easy and his antics are sickening) & Diouf (Yes he has previous for spitting) But this isn't about Gerrard, Ronaldo or Diouf, this is about your player who has alegedley spat at someone. Be it his feet face or wherever its distgusting if it is true. The result and how Hull played have nothing to do with this and shouldn't detract or mitigate his actions
 
Was that yesterdays game? Even Wenger has admitted they didn't shake hands.

edit: oh, you're talking about the league game.
 
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