Hull accuse Fabregas of spitting

JohnnyG said:

Not surprising really, he's always been a gobby little ****.
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Fabregas has come out and said he didn't spit in Ballack's face and looking at that clip I can't see any flem coming out of his mouth and he said he shouted at him right in his face. I guess only Ballack can now tell us if he did spit or not :) Also not so sure Ballack would have just sat there if he did spit in his face.

Furton said:
Comparing Fabregas to Diouf if just the most stupidly pathetic thing I've heard for years.
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As is comparing him to Gerrard and Ronaldo, Ronaldo has cut down but Gerrard is still one of the worst divers in the league yet Fabregas who I can't remember ever being done for diving or accused much for that matter is worse than him.
 
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Aye, looking at the youtube vid from the Hull-based game, given the lack of Puffa jacket (NOT ALLOWED ON PITCH! :mad: ), I'd say that's definitely another game they shook hands at. I'm not gonna try and defend Wenger/Fabregas here, because I don't know all the facts, but for Phil Brown to accuse Arsenal of histrionics and tantrums after his own little toy-out-of-the-pram episode pretty much destroyed his team's confidence during the Man City drubbing, I can only point out what a humongous hypocrite he is.
 
Arseblog has some very good points today.

The Germans were winding the clock, Ballack cleverly going to ground under a challenge from Fabregas, who was cautioned for shouting an insult at the prostrate midfielder.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2356450/Flat-Arsenal-fall-to-Ballacks-men.html

So at the time no one claimed he spat. Odd that. That youtube clip doesn't prove anything either way imo.

Interesting isn't it only Brown and Horton saw the spitting in a busy tunnel? The same man who claimed Wenger didn't shake his hand at either league game, but has been proven otherwise.

And WTF does it matter what he was wearing?!
 
[Cas];13706842 said:
I used to like Phil Brown. Hes making himself to look like a right pleb now though. :(
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isn't he just - i had to really laugh when he even had a go at Fabregas for what clothes he was wearing.....the guy is reaching at levels hard to believe for a premiership manager.

guess he's trying to make the most of his final moments in the spotlight.
 
So maybe I wasn't being foolish saying Fabregas didn't spit at Ballack after all .. People are waaaay too quick to jump to conclusions
 
Another thing, is that if the ref didn't see anything about it, then surely, with such blatent video evidence, as fans of other clubs are pointing out, Cesc should have been charged with something or another? Nothing at all.

Also, don't forget in other countries, leaning forward like that, getting in somebody's face might be the thing when trying to curse somebody. It is also possible that while saying something a bit of spit might have flown out of Cesc's mouth, totally different to hocking at Ballack. I mean how many times at a noisy environment e.g. at a nightclub where people have to lean in close together has a bit of random saliva accidently landed on somebody else? I've had it loads of times, and done it myself. It just happens.
 
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Fabregas is a dirty bugger, not sure why he'd spit at Horton though, and Brown is an idiot nowadays, with the things he says. Wouldn't surprise me too much if Fabregas has actually done it. He says/does stupid things.
 
BaZ87 said:
I completely disagree about him acting better than a great deal of older players and i'd be far more inclined to believe Brown than i would Fabregas. In his denial, Fabregas claimed that he's never spat at somebody in his career and you've just got to go on youtube to see that's bs.
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_5075428,00.html

Meanwhile, Bayern Munich director of communications Markus Hoerwick has moved to clear Fabregas of allegations that he spat at Michael Ballack in 2005.

Hoerwick said: "It definitely never happened. If anything of that kind happened I would have been the first to be informed and the first to do something about it."
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Well Baz you seem to have gone missing from this thread, any more claims about him that you have up your sleeve? I'd like to see some clips of Fabregas rolling about trying to get players sent off, please feel free to post them here.

It has now been proven that Brown shook the hand of Wenger at our place in the league earlier this season, shook his hand at the end of the away fixture at their place, Fabregas did not spit in Ballack's face and now that BaZ87 is a dirty rotten liar :p
 
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I don't really care to be honest but if you want to see clips of Fabregas rolling around trying to get people sent off then go to youtube. Can't post the links due to some of the comments on the links.

What i can post is this though; a article by an Arsenal fan a couple of seasons back where he raises his concerns with Fab's attitude and even more alleged incidents of Fabregas' petulance. I particularly like the point where he says he should try to learn from Gerrrard :p

http://www.arsenal-land.co.uk/columns/?col=269
 
BaZ87 said:
I particularly like the point where he says he should try to learn from Gerrrard :p
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Yeh maybe he should go out and get himself arrested for alleged affray eh??...yep thats something all footballers need to aspire to ;):p.
 
so as far as I can tell Baz, he's a dirty player because he didn't spit at Ballack, however Ballack does appear to pretend like he was spat at, he got elbowed in the face and it hurt, Robben clearly gave him quite a hard smack, he went down briefly got up and didn't complain in the slightest. Heskey rather tried to headbutt Fabregas who didn't say anything but leaned over a bit, all the while never brandishing fake cards. thats like 4/5 incidents in 5 years of football. All while being a quiet unassuming non arrogrant guy off the field who doesn't get drunk and plastered all over the papers every week.

Maybe he over reacted to one or two tackles more than you'd like, the worst against Cole without question but theres clearly reasons to feel aggreived with him. HOwever frankly theres dozens of players in the premier league who do that on a weekly basis and not one play in the premier league I could name who wasn't guilty of it. WEll maybe Rosicky but only because he's played about 12 games total for us :p
 
Meanwhile, Bayern Munich director of communications Markus Hoerwick has moved to clear Fabregas of allegations that he spat at Michael Ballack in 2005.

Hoerwick said: "It definitely never happened. If anything of that kind happened I would have been the first to be informed and the first to do something about it."
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Fair play then.

I personally feel that this was all out of bitter feelings by Phil Brown.
See my earlier posts :)
 
Tummy said:
Fair play then.

I personally feel that this was all out of bitter feelings by Phil Brown.
See my earlier posts :)
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yup, agreed, he's completely lost it, though you have to wonder why his assistant hasn't told him to shut the hell up, calm down and stay cool, rather than go to the FA with it. I was thinking if we had to play them again trying to get him banned to make the game easier but thats not the case. The thing is if he just spat thats one thing you make a complaint and follow it through but complaining about how he was dressed, lying about handshakes, talking about getting Wenger directly getting his keeper booked, lets keep in mind the yellow card itself had no bearing on the game and would have happened in any league in the world as it was terrible timewasting.
Arsenal fans and Wenger complained from 20 minutes in and it still took another 30 to get him booked so hardly directly responsible. With all the other nonsense, other proven lies and generally attacking fabregas's whole personality it seems like a personal thing. Maybe Fabregas said something nasty and he just wanted to screw him, its all very very weird.
 
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