Would you drive an electric vehicle?

No because I'd have no idea what condition it was in. If however I had to change it out every time it went flat then it would become a non issue. I think the battery swapout idea is a good one tbh. You could have big batteries with long range but without the downside of long recharge time.

Possibly thats the thought of many others, unless you dont need the swap capability as your happy to charge it up at home where it may well work out cheaper. Its just one of the issues floating around for the general consumer on top of needing more batteries than the actual cars.
 
The Tesla model S has been unveiled. Pre-Ordering is now possible and the missus has said 'yes'. I think that she thinks I think she's joking. I think. hmmmmmmm. Do I?
 
If it worked out cheaper than a petrol or diesel, then I'd definitely drive an electric car.

I think that situation is a long way off though.
 
The Tesla model S has been unveiled.

Looks great. Many manufacturers finally seem to be taking production electric vehicles seriously, Renault have some in development too. American companies are also taking the initiative thanks to Obama's stimulus plan, he wants a million EV's on their roads by 2015.
 
No probably not, if i was given the choice, considering performance is similar, i'd take the internal combustion engine everytime.
a large part of the enjoyment i get out of cars is the sounds and smells of the engine, petrol etc, the sound of whirring electric motors dosnt really do it for me, and it all just seems a bit too clinical(i think thats the expression i want), but then i dont use a car for commuting or anything like that its purely for pleasure and enjoyment.
 
I think it's very much worth mentioning running costs are nothing like what they seem.

Comparing the cost of electricity for EVs with the cost of petrol/diesel for ICEVs is missing the fact that about three-quarters of the cost of petrol/diesel is tax.

At the moment, the government can let ICEVs run tax-free without any significant loss of tax revenue. That would change if ICEVs became more than extreme rarities. I think it extremely unlikely that they would simply ignore the huge loss of tax revenue, so in one way or another the running costs of ICEVs would rapidly be increased by taxation in order to maintain tax revenue.

Then you need to take battery replacement costs into account, because batteries lose capacity with every charge cycle.

If you do a like for like comparison using Li-ion batteries, the running cost for an electric car is much higher than for a comparable ICEV car, so much so that it's cheaper to replace the engine in the ICEV every few years.

Then there's the issue of generating capacity. There are serious questions about the UK being able to meet current use in 5 years time because too many current power stations are due to close before new ones are due to open. Widespread use of EVs would massively increase the amount of electricity needed.

But in a fictional situation where there is spare "clean" electricity, where EV running costs are much lower than ICEV running costs, where I have a garage to charge an EV in overnight, where battery packs can be quickly swapped, where EVs are the same price as comparable ICEVs and where EVs have a boot like comparable ICEVs, I'd definitely have an EV. Although the loss of the glorious noise of some ICEVs would indeed be a loss.

I looked for this thread because I've just seen some claims about the Tesla Model S. 45 minute charge time...battery pack swap as quick as ICEV refueling...£35K price tag...I'm far from convinced those claims can be true.
 
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If it offered the same performance and range as my current car, I'd consider it quite strongly.

my problem is that with petrol you can fill up in less than 2minutes, and have another 300miles (for me).

to do that with a electric you will have to spend a few hours at each service station. Not good at all.

When something like hydrogen comes out where you can fill up in 2minutes and go again, i might well switch. but untill then ill be burning petrol (or maybe LPG)

no, i wouldn't. i enjoying driving. i don't own a car because i need to get places, i own a car because enjoying driving it. part of driving it is the power delivery, the noise, the gears.

very true. probably keep something "extreme" for fun/weekends, and electric for commutes to work.
 
A simple solution to charge times is a universal battery pack that is switched out at refuelling stations.

So you remove the flat one and install a charged one. That wouldn't take any longer than filling with a liquid fuel.

Obviously current batteries are very heavy so this would need to be addressed.
 
An electric vehicle that was good as an internal combustion car? Well, duh. I'd drive a car powered by jam if it was just as good.

More realistically, I'd drive an electric car if it was good enough to do what I need it to. If I can drive 500 miles in a day, charge it up easily enough, and it's capable of decent acceleration under motorway conditions - yeah, I'd drive it.
 
Assuming it looked like a car, was cheap, had numerous recharging points then it would be the vehicle of choice for all local journeys.
 
A simple solution to charge times is a universal battery pack that is switched out at refuelling stations.

So you remove the flat one and install a charged one. That wouldn't take any longer than filling with a liquid fuel.

Problem with that is we will run out of lithium even faster if we have way more packs than actual cars. :p
 
I fancy something odd and green for some reason. They cost too much when I just want something cheaper than what I'm paying for now though.

I just had a thought however. How would an electric car handle a full banging sound system wikkedy b0? Can see the local chavs getting 1 mile down the road then stopping due to their hardcore being too happy.
 
288V with 95Ah!

Thats nearly 30 times bigger than the battery in mine, (144V 6.5Ah) would power a Stereo pretty well though. This is the NiMH battery that Chevron has the rights to hence we didnt see anymore.
 
Surely a world full of electric cars would cause the processes for making and storing electricity to implode with higher emissions being generated to cover demand. No?
 
No I would not, not unless they could replicate the 'experience' of an internal combustion engine, the noise, the feel and the theatre you get from the bigger, better engines out there. All that is vitally important to me.

The rasp of the exhaust, the induction roar and mechanical noises you get from engines. The feel of it through the pedal, the feel of the whole unit as the revs rise and the experience of shifting gear. I love it, it's what makes driving a pleasurable experience ...even when you can't really go for a B road blast all the time.


I suspect driving a really 'good' electric car would be a lot like driving a Lexus; brisk, eerily quiet, comfortable, refined ...but boring as hell. Only compounded to an unimaginable degree.
 
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