Are colleges actually just a school?

imo school is just a place where you learn, i always called college and uni school mainly to annoy people who thought they were past that :D.
 
I call my "Sixth form college" school. It's the same basic prospect just a little bit harder work and more free time :P
 
w11tho said:
How can someone be a student, while at the same time be "Not in Education, Employment or Training". In what sense are they your "students"?
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Apologies - in 2 months they will be NEETS

(1 of them will be a millionaire at 18 though)
 
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willhub said:
I know it sounds abit silly, like a dvdbunny thread, but I assue you it is not! :p

Basically I'm having an argument with this guy, he claims that all colleges are just school's, and he says you dont go to oxford or cambridge so college = school.

Is this true?
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Are you talking about university colleges or 6th form/technical colleges?

If university then yes and no. AFAIK

At say University of London or University of Wales each college is clearly a different school - If you do computer science at Kings your course will be completely separate from someone doing computer science at UCL. Though I think at say Oxford, Cambridge, Durham etc.. they aren't so much and the colleges exist more for historical reasons.
 
w11tho said:
How do you know this though? In what sense are they your students?
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I am in charge of 75 x year 10 & 11 students who come to the main hospital in Stoke to do their BTEC First in Health & Social Care.
Next week I have to interview over 60 students for the next intake in September.
I attend regular meetings on all students with their schools & colleges and also do ILP's with them so I obviously know where they are all going to end up.
 
Ahhh, so they're not "your students". Rather, they are students who, for a certain period of time, are under your supervision. I thought you meant it as in you were some sort of teacher - my bad.
 
As a Connexions Personal Advisor (Careers guidance basically) I would say the following.

Secondary School/Grammar School up to 16 is Statutory education (can be replaced by Alternative Curriculum for those that have been excluded, or of course home-education) These schools can choose to aim for specific status awards based on excellence in certain areas. Hence some being called Maths and Computing Colleges, Sports College etc.

Post 16 is considered Further Education, often carried out at the aformentioned schools, however Further Education College is now an option. This is what the OP is asking about. Often courses are more vocational (Construction, Hair Design, Performing Arts etc) however they often have 6th form subjects (A-levels for example) and some also offer Higher Education courses (HND, HND, Foundation Degree etc)
- Some schools work closely with Further Education colleges, to allow students to do one day per week of their Year 10/11 timetable (sometimes more) to study a vocational subject. This is being taking to new levels with the forthcoming 14-19 agenda and vocational pathways. These are developed with the concept of continuing statutory education until 18.

Of course you then have University - Higher Education. I'm sure you all know what that is and I can't be arsed to explain any more :p

I hate my job, but it would appear I have actually picked up some knowledge along the way :)
 
College is very different from school. I go to the sixth form of my school i went to. however, the entire school/sixth form area is called Woldgate College
 
w11tho said:
Ahhh, so they're not "your students". Rather, they are students who, for a certain period of time, are under your supervision. I thought you meant it as in you were some sort of teacher - my bad.
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I also help to deliver the BTEC First in Health & Social Care so they are my students.
What is your point exactly because you're trying to fish for something?
 
Heres my better analysis.

First as an 11 year old :

Wow, I've just started High School and I'm really grown up.
As each year passes I get more and more mature until I'm really old in year 11.
I'm now onto College where I now know it all and I'm a really big boy at such a mature place.
I never got to the really big place where I would have been God.

Now from a 51 year olds perspective who has to go in these places a lot :

Look at all those babies in High School who need their arses wiping.
You're at College and you still need your arse wiping.
I thought by now at Uni I still wouldn't have to wipe your arse.
 
Doonhamer said:
not really, you sit in a similar sized classroom being taught in a similar style to school. How is it very different?
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Much smaller classes. A lot of it is teaching it to yourself actually outside of those classes anyway.

Peopls social activites change a lot too with more clubbing / uni style parties going on than typical house parties. Also because colleges mean people start breaking up from the old school format people change who they are friends with and generally the year seems more together and friendly with less stereotyping etc.

However, if we are looking purley at the format then yes you could say college is just school extended. But we all know that a lot of college is to do with dossing in free periods about and turning up to lessons drunk hehe.
 
dmpoole said:
I also help to deliver the BTEC First in Health & Social Care so they are my students. What is your point exactly because you're trying to fish for something?
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Hey, no problem - not trying to catch you out. I was intrigued, but now you've told me you help deliver BTECs, it's much clearer! :)
 
I always thought as colleges as dumbed down 6th forms for those that couldn't hack doing A-levels. :)

At least when A-levels were actually hard.
 
The college I go to has class from Plumbing to IT to A levels, they have a range of courses with equipment that you will use in the work place.

Most of the students are school levers and are not interest in learning and just go for the EMA. My plumbing class started with around 60 and its at about 30 now, I know 2 lads that have quit to go work full time, one in McDonalds the other in JD sports for about £4 an hour :s
 
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