hmmm, i've been lumbered with BT for a few years now, mainly my fault as i signed up to receive the homehub (which i then sold) without reading the small print that states, that by doing so, i agreed to a 18 months, b*ll*cks. anyway, contract finally ran out last Friday. I've never experienced traffic shaping with them, until a few weeks ago. The speeds were pathetic, it was even a struggle to stream videos from youtube. I gave them a call as i wanted the MAC, and i got offered the same saving of £2 a month, despite me being with them for years. I told them i could get 3 times the speed, and make a saving of roughly £5 if i went with BE, the guy said 'oh'. Seems they don't value there customers at all.