Killzone 2: The OcUk clan is a go!

Phonesis · 30 Mar 2009 at 22:50

I love the ps3 but after tonight I really am beginning to conclude that "serious" gaming , particularly online, is exclusively the domain of xbox live and PC. The problem was largely one of PSN but also just of the KZ2 internal interface.

To top it off for a me, Rhyger, and Zaazaa, we then went onto lbp in the hope of a wind down from all the frustration only to find every game we tried to play together unplayable due to lag. Epic Fail.

Widge · 1 Apr 2009 at 08:03

No no, give us another game!

Someone just pointed out, according to the battle replay we had some bod running around on our team doing team kills and stuff.

I have no idea because I didn't stay around for the match, so I want a chance to play you guys!

I saw there was a patch yesterday, wondering if the upcoming patch had an impact on our game?

Widge · 1 Apr 2009 at 09:48

Actually that could be a LIE, someone has pointed out that the originator of my intel posted it shortly after midnight... making it April 1st!

But still, up for a clan game for sure.

Nanoman · 1 Apr 2009 at 10:06

ThemisB (Euro Gamer) said:
Been having a look at the battle replay of our get together on Monday night. Anyone else notice that in our last game (Salamun) we were infiltrated by one of the other clan's members? stevie_gall of OcUK was playing with us Helghast yet constantly killing us during body count and grabbing the objective during search and retrieve and running the other way! To top it off, many times when he attacked one of us we fired back, getting two team kills in the process. We probably mistook him for a saboteur or something. Snarko have a look mate - the amount of times that cheeky ******* killed you is unbelievable. At one point he actually goes off for a chat at the enemy's base. That's quite a stupid, pointless and annoying way to cheat if you ask me.

Dunno if thats true, was posted on 1st April.

stevieg · 1 Apr 2009 at 10:23

yeah it was true but i left the game 30 seconds in and changed to isa so the other stuff about team kills and such isnt true,maybe as isa the game still mistakenly believed me to be helghast and recorded my kills as team kills but i was definately isa during 99% of that game and even if i werent isa i would never be so underhanded, before i left i was actually contemplating staying and fighting our guys for fun

maybe the glitch had something to do with one of their guys inviting me into a squad before i left

Streeteh · 1 Apr 2009 at 10:37

Where is this replay people speak of?

stevieg · 1 Apr 2009 at 10:58

i have no idea im trying to find out where you see the battle replays online but i cant find them anywhere

Streeteh · 1 Apr 2009 at 11:19

I'm watching it now stevieg

The video does indeed show you teamkilling them, however before you start your icon disappears for 30 seconds or so, then reappears in the OcUK spawn. This leads me to believe that you're right in thinking this was a bug. You can see you spawning in the OcUK base several times actually, i also think i see you get killed by one of those flying sentry gun things off the enemy team; they never shoot teammates.

Replay can be found here:
http://www.killzone.com/kz/tour_round_history.psml?kz_match_id=2869347&kz_file_id=2536061

[EDIT] At one point you also appear to plant a bomb on their objective, clearly this would be impossible if you were on their team

[EDIT2] Went ahead and explained my findings on the Eurogamer forum just to nip this in the bud. Seems they understand the issue and agree that it's all good. Sorry for going ahead and just doing it but i figured it'd be best to explain before people got potentially too riled up about it.

stevieg · 1 Apr 2009 at 11:45

yeah it does show me team killing but my own team didnt kill me, until zaazaa killed me with a spam shotty moment but there were a few helghast around at that moment so i must have been showing up as friendly to both isa and helghast

you see it as clear as day at around 2:05 i spawned at the isa spawn point after disappearing for about 1 min
where did you find the link for that?

Streeteh · 1 Apr 2009 at 11:47

I went searching on our clan roster, Nanoman still had the replay at the top of the list on his profile.

As i say mate i've explained on your behalf, hope you don't mind, but they seem fine with it, it is clearly a bug.

I've had experience with glitch abuse accusations and cheating back in my TFC days, it's typically best to get out their with your evidence against their claims ASAP before too many people get aggroed about it. The guys over at their forums were really nice though, i'm just used to the super-serious TFC crowd who thirst for blood at the very mention of glitches, looks like i got overly worried for nothing

stevieg · 1 Apr 2009 at 11:49

na hey whatever unruffles the feathers, i was about to post that i remembered planting the bomb and that i just checked and found it anyway so whatever

its crazy though the way ti happened, i wonder where you go to report things like these

i posted on the killzone forums about it, we will see what comes of it

Nanoman · 1 Apr 2009 at 12:19

Thanks for posting that on their forum Streeteh, probably saved OcUK from getting a bad rep. The person probably should have studied the replay more before making accusations like that but suppose on first glance it does appear that way.

mcwildcard · 1 Apr 2009 at 12:49

I haven't had a chance to check, did we get our missing 10 valour back from 'the match that never was'?

rp2000 · 1 Apr 2009 at 12:57

When are we playing a Valour macth. I am still confused. I guess normal Clan Matches give us a ranking (which we played the other day) and these Valour games give us some sort of separate score.

Why is it so hard to organise? Do we not just go online find some clan and say "oi we challenge you"?

mcwildcard said:
I haven't had a chance to check, did we get our missing 10 valour back from 'the match that never was'?

That game is over, let's accept the lost points and just play a proper Valour game.

rp2000

Widge · 1 Apr 2009 at 13:02

We're back to 100 so I reckon you are, I saw a message in game saying that the match had been voided.

Widge · 1 Apr 2009 at 13:04

Nanoman said:
Thanks for posting that on their forum Streeteh, probably saved OcUK from getting a bad rep. The person probably should have studied the replay more before making accusations like that but suppose on first glance it does appear that way.

The replay system is shonky at best. Missing players, dead players suddenly flying across the map to shoot someone with a shotgun, people not showing respawning and just appearing somewhere.

I know this because I decided to go view a rather good match and noticed a 'dead' me on the map, teleporting around killing people!

I missed the match with you guys anyway... had to watch 24!

Streeteh · 1 Apr 2009 at 13:05

rp2000 said:
When are we playing a Valour macth. I am still confused. I guess normal Clan Matches give us a ranking (which we played the other day) and these Valour games give us some sort of separate score.

Why is it so hard to organise? Do we not just go online find some clan and say "oi we challenge you"?

rp2000

There's a bug that our clan game fell foul of it seems. GG is looking into it and hope to patch it 'soon' according to their forums.

Nanoman said:
Thanks for posting that on their forum Streeteh, probably saved OcUK from getting a bad rep. The person probably should have studied the replay more before making accusations like that but suppose on first glance it does appear that way.

No worries, i think i may have overreacted treating it so seriously as they clearly didn't mind much, they certainly weren't getting riled up over it. Better safe than sorry i guess.

rp2000 · 1 Apr 2009 at 13:18

Streeteh said:
There's a bug that our clan game fell foul of it seems. GG is looking into it and hope to patch it 'soon' according to their forums.

I refuse to believe a bug exists that only stops OcUK playing Valour matches, that OcUK discovered that only GG can fix before we are able to play another Valour game.

rp2000

Streeteh · 1 Apr 2009 at 13:27

rp2000 said:
I refuse to believe a bug exists that only stops OcUK playing Valour matches, that OcUK discovered that only GG can fix before we are able to play another Valour game.

rp2000

Well that's fine, refuse to believe away, because i never claimed ocuk discovered it, fell foul of means to be affected by, not to discover. I also never said we can't play another valor game, i just said that it caused the problems that were experienced when trying to set up the clan game.

The problem is widely known and was discovered well before we fell foul of it.

rp2000 · 1 Apr 2009 at 13:30

Streeteh said:
Well that's fine, refuse to believe away, because i never claimed ocuk discovered it, fell foul of means to be affected by, not to discover. I also never said we can't play another valor game, i just said that it caused the problems that were experienced when trying to set up the clan game.

The problem is widely known and was discovered well before we fell foul of it.

Calm down, I meant that whilst what you described may have been relevant for the game that was in the past, it was not really relevant to me asking about the future games.

I see no reason why we cannot organise other stuff before this patch etc.

rp2000