This is fantastic. Use it please.
Any designers nice enough to create me a logo?
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This is fantastic. Use it please.
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Meh, choose to believe me or not, I know what I'm talking about
Appeal to authority doesn't work with me I'm afraid.
Do NOT confuse your ignorance of graphic design with 'snobbery' on our part. If you had any real clue you could tell that the differences between professional work and people who pretend to be designers "cos I got photoshops init" is much the same as telling the difference between McDonalds and a meal cooked by Gordon Ramsay.
You mock the Olympic logo but then most of the design community also felt that missed the mark, everyone gets it wrong but Wolf Ollins get it very much right a lot of the time, good graphic design/advertising can give companies priceless longevity, popularity and a huge customer base - you tell me that isn't worth paying for.
No one is pretending to be a designer, where are you coming up with this from? And what is all this bs about me having "no clue" because I don't care about the background of a logo design?
Energize goes for the point aaaannndddd....misses.
You say that the people that pay for good work are idiots, ok, fine, so the people you think they should go to and get work for free/uber cheap are the afore mentioned people that pretend to be designers.
You say that the people that pay for good work are idiots, ok, fine, so the people you think they should go to and get work for free/uber cheap are the afore mentioned people that pretend to be designers.
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No I never said that, I said that only an idiot would pay thousands for what the op wanted, no where did he mention professional graphics designers or a multinational company.
This.
Did I say that he should pay thousands? I said that people DO pay for this work, be that hundreds OR thousands and that its stupid to think that people who will do this task properly won't do it for free. For him to say "ill even buy you a drink" is quite frankly insulting If you also note the thread title - he asks for designers, nobody here is a designer unless they do it as a job or for money so yes, that would be professionals.
If you also note the thread title - he asks for designers, nobody here is a designer unless they do it as a job or for money so yes, that would be professionals.
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A designer is someone who designs something, they don't need to do it for money or be "professionals" if you check the dictionary, that is the snobbery I was referring to earlier, it does not reflect well when people think of themselves more highly than others based on whether they are a "professional" or not.
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You are clearly wrong, thats like saying you cooked dinner for your family once so that makes you a chef. This is why threads like this irk me so much, so many people calling themselves designers when they merely dabble with the programs for a hobby. These people are NOT designers, the sooner you realise this, the sooner you will accept you are wrong Simples.
Simples.You are clearly wrong, thats like saying you cooked dinner for your family once so that makes you a chef. This is why threads like this irk me so much, so many people calling themselves designers when they merely dabble with the programs for a hobby. These people are NOT designers, the sooner you realise this, the sooner you will accept you are wrong
Yes I'm clearly wrong when every dictionary defines a designer as someone who designs something.
You are simply making up your own definition of designer to inflate your ego by placing yourself into a "professional" elite group. I see the same thing often among artists.
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Yes I'm clearly wrong when every dictionary defines a designer as someone who designs something.
What do you do for a living? To overuse my cooking analogy once again, pretend now that you are Heston Blumenthall, you are one of the top flight chefs and somebody tells you that YOUR food is a rip off because their mum makes a lasagne that is as good as yours and that makes her a chef.
This is clearly retarded, if you can't understand this is the same thing, then so are you. It is not about snobbery, it is not about elitism, it is simply that the profession is being cheapened by idiots like you throwing around the word 'designer' so much that it has lost all meaning. End of.
No one said anything is a rip off, your putting words in my mouth. I'm not quite sure what it had to do with the oxford dictionaries definition of desiner though.
Fantastic personal attack. Why don't you email oxford and tell them they are idiots? Could also do with reading the faq while you are at it.
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Dear god, have you forgotten everything you've written in this thread already? The only person to bring up dictionary definitions was you so I don't really understand your above quote?
As for ad hominem, I wasn't criticising you, I was criticising your flawed logic so give me a break, that was no personal attack, you just took it personally...probably because you realised you're wrong
No you're just mis-interpreting it.
I was talking about what a designer was and then you randomly start talking about rip-off food.
As for ad hominem, I wasn't criticising you, I was criticising your flawed logic so give me a break, that was no personal attack, you just took it personally...probably because you realised you're wrong
I think you will find that calling someone a retard and an idiot is a personal attack, hence people being banned for it.... Since I have not made any arguments in the entire thread, saying my logic is flawed, is in itself illogical.
God this is so pointless, arguing with someone who refuses to even accept the dictionary definition of a word because he feels it cheapens his entire profession, it would be funny if this was a joke.
Since this is going nowhere I'm going to leave the thread now, funnily enough I do have some cad work to do for uni.
Or perhaps you didn't put your point across well enough so that half of what you have written shows complete ignorance to everything all the other people have said in this thread.
I assume you're intelligent enough to understand the point of an analogy, how you can even say this baffles me. Can you seriously not understand the comparisons that I gave you? You have an extremely misguided view of what a designer is based on modern society calling EVERYTHING 'designer' - this is simply not the case. You have fallen into the trap that most others have, you believe that anybody with the adobe creative suite is a designer, as I said before, this is wrong.
Making a meal for your parents doesn't make you a chef.
Kicking a football around at the park doesn't make you a footballer.
Driving a car does not make you Lewis Hamilton.
Creating a website in Dreamweaver doesn't make you a web designer.
Creating a couple of logos for fun DOESN'T MAKE YOU A GRAPHIC DESIGNER.
Are you grasping this yet?
I didn't call you a retard, far from it, I said that the situation I gave you was clearly retarded and IF you cannot understand this EXTREMELY SIMPLE METAPHOR then you must also be retarded, are you confessing that you cannot understand such a simple concept? If so then I despair for you.
lul wut?! This makes zero sense, nada, zip, none. Everything you have posted has been of a differing opinion to mine, I replied, you replied in turn, this is what is known as an arguement - you can even check your favourite oxford dictionary to confirm this.
See, here you even say you are arguing with me, yet in the earlier quote you say you have not made any arguements, sense make much? Also, I and the other designers in this thread have tried to educate you on why your opinions have put some peoples backs out of line yet you continue to ignore any valid point and trot along getting more and more confused.
Is this how you handle every arguement? Going on about how confused you are at the most simple of things and when you find that you have nothing more to reply with - you simply say "omgz this is pointless you're not listening to me" and leave? Wow, good luck with real life.
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